New to the 1ga

[jsugarbaker]

So, I recently picked up a 1990 eclipse gst. Sat for a number of years, so of course, it's full of water and I am in the process now and a full rebuild. Now, I'm more of a 1gb guy myself, so this is quite a change, but my main question is about the engine. All my cars have been 6bolt turbo engines and out of about six engines total that I have (or have previously had) non had oil squirters until I acquired this 1ga. I've been searching and haven't found much literature on the subject so I'm hoping someone will shed light on this for me. Is there advantages to these engines? Should I rebuild and keep running this style or build one of my other block that don't have the squirters?

I'm sorry in advance for being somewhat of a "newb" question. I've been around dsms for some years now and this is my first engine to have these, so naturally I'm curious.

Thanks for any input fellas

 

[pauleyman]

All turbo engines have oil squirters. They cool the piston. If yours did not have them they were non turbo blocks

 

[jsugarbaker]

Well that seems to be correct but there is one issue I have found with that. The factory 92 Tsi engine that we swapped into my other talon originally did not have them. Unless I overlooked them and I've forgotten, I don't recall seeing them. Anyway, I've had no issues with any of my other engines. Would I be better off keeping this setup or swapping to one of the others I have?

And yes, two of my blocks are known non turbo, another I just bought was a known non turbo, another what was swapped into my Tsi Awd by previous owner was said to have been pulled from another tsi(does not have squirters either). The original engine that I know for a fact was from the 92 Tsi, I have not personally seen in over a year since its in storage

 

[mygsx2120]

All turbo engines came with oil squirters, end of story.

Whether you decide to use them or not (I would) there is no reason to switch engines. You can just plug the oil galleys if you don't want to use the

 

[jsugarbaker]

Well clearly I need to research more often. Sorry for the dumb post, but I've honestly never seen them on any of my engines or some others that are turbo. I will be keeping them though since I'm going back stock and from what I've read it's not good to remove them. I've seen no negative affects on my other engines though, but oh well.

 

[DSM1G90]

True, but seen NT blocks used for turbo applications.

Look on the transmission end of the block and there should be a VIN number stamped on the flat part of the block above where the bell housing attaches to the block related to the vehicle it came from.

For the 1G 6bolt block: If the VIN has an "R", it's a NT 4G63 block, and if it has an "U", it be the turbo block 4G63. 7bolts used the "E" for the NT block and "F" for the turbo block.

True, but seen NT blocks used for turbo applications.

Look on the transmission end of the block and there should be a VIN number stamped on the flat part of the block above where the bell housing attaches to the block related to the vehicle it came from.

For the 1G 6bolt block: If the VIN has an "R", it's a NT 4G63 block, and if it has an "U", it be the turbo block 4G63. 7bolts used the "E" for the NT block and "F" for the turbo block.

 

[Paul@RTM]

All turbo engines have oil squirters.

All turbo engines came with oil squirters, end of story.

This. And this.
We don't care how many DSM engines you've looked at or what vehicle they came from. All 4G63 turbo engines came from the factory with oil squirters. Every friggin' one of them.

 

[jsugarbaker]

And the question was already answered, there's no reason for you to be a douche.

 

[eDeclpse92]

And the question was already answered, there's no reason for you to be a douche.

Great response

 

[curt-s]

How was he being a douche? You've apparently only had experience with factory non-turbo engines where turbos were added after, if at all. But this thread, among fifteen thousand identical others, should set the record finally straight.

Btw, you will likely want to disassemble the squirter and check/clean them thoroughly before reusing them. This includes checking every component for proper sealing and tension, plus ensuring the neck is still affixed and there are no cracks. Don't want them falling apart in there.

In fact, depending on condition of block and age, you might just want to order a new set for peace of mind.

 

[jsugarbaker]

I apologize for my reactions, I posted before researching fully and my answer shortly after. And I already plan on replacing them as the engine has been sting for quite some time.