MAF Translator wiring

[Eagle 5]

Alright, I cant make this any easier. Which three wires, going into the MAF Translator box, go to the GM sensor? This means, which of those wires going in there go to the air sensor. If you have to, friggin put arrows on the picture pointing to which three or just tell me like, the 1st, 3rd, and 6th wires from the top go to it, or whatever wires they are. This cant be any easier. Please, I really want to get my car running right and I need to know if the sensor is even hooked up correctly first before I look for the problem somewhere else.

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Please, someone take the couple minutes to look at their translator and let me know which wires go to the maf sensor. Telling me the colors wont do any good as there are obvisouly 2 black and 2 pink wires. I need to know which wires go to the maf sensor. Thanks.

 

[tstkl]

1g or 2g? (you have 92 awd written, but theres a 2g in your picture)

 

[Eagle 5]

1g, the 92 talon, i need to change my pic so ill do that now

 

[spoolup]

the 3 wires going to the GM MAF are the yellow, black and pink, yellow being being airflow, pink power, and black being ground as seen here via VFAQs wayback machine:
http://www.vfaq.com/mods/wayback/gm1.htm
Next the DSM harness side is outlined in the samurai methods page of fullthorttletech, found here:
http://www.fullthrottletech.com/showthread.php?t=306&highlight=samurai look at post #3 by turbobob, bewtween these 2 documents you can find what any wire in group does.

 

[Eagle 5]

Thats nice, but does not help me. I know that the black, pink and yellow wires go to the gm maf. But, if you notice, there are TWO black and TWO pink wires. I cut ALL of the wires at one time not realizing some were the same color. SO, I have no idea which wire on the translator is what in regards to the pink and black wires. So, when I go to hook up the GM plug to the translator I have two black wires and two pink wires to choose from. I dont know which of the black and which of the pink wires goes to the GM plug.

In short, I had the translator and just straight up cut all the wires, now my harnesses are separate from the unit. WAIT though, there are two black wires and two pink wires. I ahve no idea which pink goes to the GM plug and which black goes to the GM plug because they are no longer connected to the harnesses. SO, I need to know which pink wire and which black wire goes to the GM plug. There is only 1 yellow wire so that one is easy. No wiring diagram would help me here. I need someone to PHYSICALLY look at their translator and say something like "the black, pink and yellow wires that go to the gm plug are right next to each other, or you use the 1st black and 1st pink wire from the left in the picture"

Its really a stupidly simple question. Wiring diagrams wont help me when you have to have the harnesses already connected. I cut mine, then realized there are more than 1 wire of the same color.

I cant possibly explain this any easier. Thanks for helping though, just I need someone to look at their translator box and just friggin say (the 3rd, 4th, 7th.. or whatever they are) wires from the left in the pic go to the plug. Or heck just copy the picture, circle the 3 wires and repost it if possible.

Sorry if I seem irritated, but this is such a simple question, it would take someone a couple minutes to look at their translator and just post which wires it is. I KNOW that they are black, pink and yellow. BUT there are TWO black and TWO pink wires, randomly picking one wont do me any good.

Yes, I'm an idiot for not paying attention before cutting the wires. I didn't think there would be same colored wires used.

 

[spoolup]

whoops I am a tard. Sorry dude, how about calling up full throttle speed or posting on fullthrottletech, they could give you the answer in minutes since they developed the thing. I am sure this is not the first time it has happened. Sorry bro my posts were of no help.

 

[GILZTSIAWD]

wires 3,4,5 counting from the left go to the maf

 

[GILZTSIAWD]

here

 

[Eagle 5]

Thank you! Sorry for seeming a little poed, just been trying to find out for awhile. Posting on fullthrottles forum did nothing for me, and I figured I would get a quick answer there. ITs cool spoolup, you at least tried to help so im thankful for that.

now though, I still have the problem of what is wrong with the car. I hooked those 3 wires up to the maf plug back when i lengthened them so I do have it hooked up correctly. Would a bad MAS cause my fuel trims to be wacky? Like, if the ecu is getting a bad reading is it possible it cant compensate? I can get my idle trim fine. My mid trim is about immpossible to get any lower than 139, maybe 135 on a lucky day. The high trim I had down to maybe low 130's. I cant add any more fuel with the translator. Even when my fuel pressure was at 50 psi base, my trims were only 127 and 135 (mid, high) So would a bad sensor cause false readings or something like that and aside from running high fuel pressures, i would not be able to get my fuel trims where they should be?

I have it in blow thru but I dont think it would screw with it that much. It still read the amount of air, the temperature is fixed by the translator if im not mistaken.

Any ideas?
Again, thanks guys for helping me. I always have at least once play to go where people can help.

 

[danyz250f]

After much reading and experimenting I have come to realize that a blow through does mess quite a bit with things. Try adding fuel by setting the translator to the next smaller injector size and zero out all the other knobs (start fresh) zero the afc if you have one. Log it while you are at idle and see how the low trim looks. Then go for a drive and drive around at like 40 mph constantly for a long time and see if the mid trim changes. In my opinion tuning in the blow through way is a bi***! I have had alot of trouble getting my trims around normal. Ajust the knobs accordingly when you are driving around.

Hope this helps.

 

[danyz250f]

P.S.

One way I read to see if the gm sensor is bad, you tap on it with the handle of like a screwdriver when the car is running. If the cars idle changes, then you have a bad sensor. I searched google and it took me to a gm site and that is what they said.

I checked mine this way and it did nothing, so I tried more tuning and my problems are allmost gone.

 

[Eagle 5]

I called up and asked fullthrottle. The guy I talked to said reset the settings to zero and drive around and see how it feels. he said its possible there is an exhaust leak and oxygen is getting to the o2 sensor. This would cause it to read lean and so my fuel trims would be high. Casuing more fuel to be added and the car to run rich, even though the trims say its lean.

Zeroing it out helped the jerking some but its still there. May need to try to take a little more fuel out and see if I can figure out if I have an exhaust leak somewhere.