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85-100 ft*lbs. And torquing them is a good idea, you don't want your wheel falling off, do you :p.
 
girlieracr4g63 said:
Im just strong like that...hahaha No really Ive never had one fall off yet. Knock on wood.

I almost had a wheel fell off. All lugnuts were gone and it was practically riding on one stud. If you want to see pictures, search for "My Wheel Almost Fell Off" I think you'll find it. Torquing just takes the guess work out of "did I tighten it enough?"
 
You can a decent clicker torque wrench for about $10 from Harbor Freight. Get two while you're at it and give one to your girlfriend or wife. They have pretty good leverage. I keep one in the back of my car now. Always check your nuts when you have work done, although most often they will be overtightened but you don't want to leave yourself stranded with stuck lugs.

I had some brake work done a local place and the next time I needed to get a wheel off, I bent my little stock wrench. So I borrowed a 4-way from a guy at work and twisted that. When I had my wife return the car to the shop, they made some stupid comment about her husband needing to go to a gym. Needless to say they will never get more of my business.

Give a little pimple faced geek an air wrench and he thinks he's the Hulk.
 
girlieracr4g63 said:
Ive never torqued my lugs. Just tighten them the correct way and your set. Cross pattern.

Thats what ive done my whole life. Those cheapo torque wrenches are junk. I always hand tightened my lugs in a cross pattern and havent had any ill effects.
 
I'm a strong believer that wheel lugs (and just about every other nut and bolt on the car) should be tightened by hand using a torque wrench to the proper setting as given in the service manual.

One of the things you risk by not using a torque wrench is warping the rotors.

Aluminum rims should be retorqued after driving on them for a while (like 25-50 mi) just to make sure they haven't loosened.

Steve
 
If i ever hand tighten my wheels to point where it ends up warping my rotors, ill go buy a Snap-On torque wrench. But like girlieracer is sayin, it aint gonna happen ;)
 
96TSi_Chris said:
If i ever hand tighten my wheels to point where it ends up warping my rotors, ill go buy a Snap-On torque wrench. ;)
What exactly do you think causes rotor warp, too much pressure or uneven pressure?

But you don't have to believe me just do a google search and see what you find on the proper way to tighten lug nuts

Steve
 
When you press the brake pedal the brake fluid is passed to the caliper under very high pressure to force the pistons into action. It is the pressure of the stationary brake pads against the turning rotor that creates friction and slows your car to a stop. This friction generates a significant amount of heat. If the heat that is generated by braking is not properly dissipated, the rotor may cool at an uneven rate. If a rotor does not cool down evenly it will loose its flat round shape. This is what people are referring to when they say their brakes or rotors have warped.
 
Rotor warping is kind of like cat skinning; there's more than one way.
 
steve said:
What exactly do you think causes rotor warp, too much pressure or uneven pressure?

But you don't have to believe me just do a google search and see what you find on the proper way to tighten lug nuts

Steve

Im not real sure why are you are turning this into an arguement. Would it make you happy if i went out and bought a torque wrench? I doubt it. I have a method to tightening my lugs and i havent run into a single problem yet so i could search all day long about the monkeys that dont know what they are doing, but it isnt going to mean much to me.

Im happy for you that you go by every guidebook there is to tightening every nut and bolt on the car to the proper spec, but i have a good feel for the car and a good knowledge, so i really dont need to go by the book unless i fawk something up. Til then, my opinion stands, but thank you for the imput.
 
I like torqing my lugs, but I've also done it a million times with out doing it and there's nothing wrong with that. If I ever take it anywhere to get something done (MD state inspection, etc...) I make sure they torque them because otherwise my skinny ass can't break loose the lugs from the outrageous tightening they do with impact guns. I just had to deal with this the other day.
 
96TSi_Chris said:
I'm not real sure why are you are turning this into an argument.
I'm not trying to. I am trying to point out that there is at least one good reason why you should use a torque wrench. Nobody in my experience can accurately and repeatably apply the same force without a measuring tool. Sure you can get the lugs tight enough to keep the wheels from falling off but can you get an even clamping force across the wheel and rotor? Keeping an even force across the rotor hat will help keep the rotor true as it cools.

Your welcome to continue to do whatever you want. Hopefully you won't have to fawk something up to value the accumulated knowledge assembled in the service manual. I know I've learned my share of lessons the hard way. :)

Steve
 
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