1G Looking to upgrade fp black......What would you pick

[Kapok6]

I have searched the interwebz multiple times and have yet to find the pressure requirements. I have just been able to find that a lot of guys run 4an lines and an drain with no restrictors.

 

[1990TSIAWDTALON]

Like a Holset does. It is a journal bearing unit and I would bet BW can tell you their requirements but @JusMX141 can tell you, I would bet money. Hopefully my tag will get Justin to give his input on it. She's a big unit!

 

[gsxeclipse102]

Id guess 4an feed from ofh and 12an drain.

 

[Kapok6]

Id guess 4an feed from ofh and 12an drain.

Every other forum I can find info on has nearly everyone running 10an drains on the 200-300 series, which is what i'll be running.

 

[SasaniFab]

Every other forum I can find info on has nearly everyone running 10an drains on the 200-300 series, which is what i'll be running.

Had a little change,going with a custom garret turbo that will fit my manifold. That turbo is way to big for my manifold.

 

[Kapok6]

That's what she said.

 

[1990TSIAWDTALON]

Lmao. Yeah. Hey if you CAN run a bigger drain do it. It's better to be able to get rid of excess oil than possibly blow thru a turbo seal from backup if you feed it heavy from the ofh. Your turbo will be very happy.

 

[SasaniFab]

Lmao. Yeah. Hey if you CAN run a bigger drain do it. It's better to be able to get rid of excess oil than possibly blow thru a turbo seal from backup if you feed it heavy from the ofh. Your turbo will be very happy.

Most bottom mount manifolds can only handle s cover housings. The s300 series is basically an h series.....these turbos will only fit a top mount manifold..... I'm assuming

 

[SasaniFab]

Most bottom mount manifolds can only handle s cover housings. The s300 series is basically an h series.....these turbos will only fit a top mount manifold..... I'm assuming

From what I gather a lot of guys fun this with the evo. He said it's a 65/65 garret t3

 

[10's or bust]

Do these turbos require a restrictor ? Im running off the ofh? Didnt think journal bearing required it.

Most journal bearing turbos don't but definitely a must with the ball bearing turbos as they only require half as much oil pressure to run

 

[10's or bust]

Bro I hope you reach your goals and find the perfect turbo manifold combo to get you there. Is the black real laggy and what's the spool up and power band like. In other words how soon do you see full boost. 3800; 3600; 4000; 4200rpms....????

 

[SasaniFab]

The black is a great turbo,i have full boost by 4500 give or take. These 8cm turbos are wonderful truly. It's just time for me to grow.

 

[SasaniFab]

The black is a great turbo,i have full boost by 4500 give or take. These 8cm turbos are wonderful truly. It's just time for me to grow.

Came in .... I don't mess around. When I set my mind to something

 

[boostdawd]

Came in .... I don't mess around. When I set my mind to something

That looks beautiful.

 

[SasaniFab]

That looks beautiful.

Doesn't it

 

[JusMX141]

Every other forum I can find info on has nearly everyone running 10an drains on the 200-300 series, which is what i'll be running.

You'll likely have oiling issues with 10AN unless you're running a top-mount manifold.

The majority of brands running these turbos don't have a drain that enters the pan below oil level and has the engine leaning forward about 15* in the engine bay which lets oil pool in the drain elbow in front of the pan. Any turbo receiving oil unrestricted from the filter housing on a DSM should be running a 12AN drain.

 

[Kapok6]

You'll likely have oiling issues with 10AN unless you're running a top-mount manifold.

The majority of brands running these turbos don't have a drain that enters the pan below oil level and has the engine leaning forward about 15* in the engine bay which lets oil pool in the drain elbow in front of the pan. Any turbo receiving oil unrestricted from the filter housing on a DSM should be running a 12AN drain.

It'll be on a top mount.

 

[JusMX141]

That *helps* because it lengthens the physical drain and give it more fall before reaching the pan, but you can always benefit from using a 12AN drain. A 10AN drain has a smaller inside diameter than a stock drain and should only be used on ball bearing turbos.

A good video illustrating the differences from another turbocharger repair vendor:

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[1990TSIAWDTALON]

This is what I run and have had zero issues with it. The real main parts are the turbo oil adaptor and the oil pan adaptor, the rest can be made if you are on a tight budget. I used the whole kit.

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[henrysan]

Doesn't it

I run the same manifold. Great piece. The front motor mount on my 1g had to be trimmed for oil drain clearance
which is normal, but there is plenty of room for large compressor and turbine housings.

 

[1990TSIAWDTALON]

Yes, the 1g front roll stop has to be trimmed on one side in order for the drains to clear them, with a Holset anyway.....I found some pictures that should help.

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[SasaniFab]

I run the same manifold. Great piece. The front motor mount on my 1g had to be trimmed for oil drain clearance
which is normal, but there is plenty of room for large compressor and turbine housings.

I'm running a bulfab front cross member , are you running the oem crossmember

 

[Vegas Smith]

I'm running a bulfab front cross member , are you running the oem crossmember

He's probably referring to the mount that connects to the block, not the mount the bulfab replaces.

 

[henrysan]

I'm running a bulfab front cross member , are you running the oem crossmember

Yes I am on the oem crossmember, but the engine mount bracket that needs to be cut down bolts to the block, So im pretty sure we would be using the same piece in that spot, regardless of crossmember.

 

[SasaniFab]

Yes I am on the oem crossmember, but the engine mount bracket that needs to be cut down bolts to the block, So im pretty sure we would be using the same piece in that spot, regardless of crossmember.

Do you have a picture of how much you cut out .... final product I mean