Lets talk BW NET vs ET

[sb7775]

Let me know what you guys think about the NET vs the ET. I'm thinking of buying the s366 and its a good amount cheaper in the NET version. If there is not much trade off i would think the NET would be a good deal for the money. Let me know what you guys think the pros and cons are. Thanks in advance.

Steve

 

[dSmgs-T]

i didnt think they made the 366 in anything but ETT

regardless, i believe ETT is the way to go. better/quicker spool up and less boost drop between shifts etc etc....

 

[sb7775]

i didnt think they made the 366 in anything but ETT

regardless, i believe ETT is the way to go. better/quicker spool up and less boost drop between shifts etc etc....

I believe you are correct i wanted to say s362. I don't mind giving up a few hundred rpm's of spool and NLTS in the link will help between shifts. I'm more concerned with the flow numbers. I'm looking to make a good amount of power on pump and if there isn't much difference in flow then its a no brain-er for me.

Steve

 

[ScottH]

Both are capable of big pump gas numbers. The ETT IMO is going to make more power efficiently and allow for more peak power to be made. What it narrows down to is affordability. Some folks can afford the ETT and some can't. Either way you're getting a good product.

 

[dSmgs-T]

Both are capable of big pump gas numbers. The ETT IMO is going to make more power efficiently and allow for more peak power to be made. What it narrows down to is affordability. Some folks can afford the ETT and some can't. Either way you're getting a good product.

x2!!

 

[sb7775]

I'm looking for 600whp on pump. I'm thinking the S366ET might be the best choice.

Steve

 

[dSmgs-T]

I'm looking for 600whp on pump. I'm thinking the S366ET might be the best choice.

Steve

600 on 93oct? that is going to be really difficult, unless you mean e85 pump...

youre going to need to use race gas to achieve that more than likely, and if youre shooting for 600 i would go to the s362 like myself. this turbo will get 600 pretty easily!

 

[sb7775]

600 on 93oct? that is going to be really difficult, unless you mean e85 pump...

youre going to need to use race gas to achieve that more than likely, and if youre shooting for 600 i would go to the s362 like myself. this turbo will get 600 pretty easily!

This is on 93oct, Mobil to be exact. I'm pretty sure i can get there give or take 5-10%. I'm not sure the s362et or net will get me there on pump but they do meet my spool requirements of 20psi between 4500-5K rpm.

Steve

 

[EVIL EAGLE RT]

i just bought a s366et from joe at slow boy that turbo will EASILY make 600 im going for 700 and there shop has made several cars over 700 with the s366

 

[Steve93Talon]

Chris at GVautosport just dyno'ed his S362 powered EVO IX with a built 2.3 on C16. He's previously made like 520whp on a Mustang dyno on pump gas at like 25psi. This time it was on a dynojet, boost was hitting 35-36 briefly but falling fast due to a small single spring in the gate. It still made 603whp and like 519ft/lbs. Power flatlined at around 6k, you can see on the graph where the boost starts falling off (I'll post it when I get it from him). With a 2nd spring holding 35psi to redline, it should be in the high 600s as it sits. In the meantime, here's an in-car vid of boost gauge and tach. 35+psi by 4800. Also bear in mind this was a 95F and humid day.

In-car vid (give it a minute to load, it's HD)

 

[dSmgs-T]

Chris at GVautosport just dyno'ed his S362 powered EVO IX with a built 2.3 on C16. He's previously made like 520whp on a Mustang dyno on pump gas at like 25psi. This time it was on a dynojet, boost was hitting 35-36 briefly but falling fast due to a small single spring in the gate. It still made 603whp and like 519ft/lbs. Power flatlined at around 6k, you can see on the graph where the boost starts falling off (I'll post it when I get it from him). With a 2nd spring holding 35psi to redline, it should be in the high 600s as it sits. In the meantime, here's an in-car vid of boost gauge and tach. 35+psi by 4800. Also bear in mind this was a 95F and humid day.

In-car vid (give it a minute to load, it's HD)

his car is too sweet. i have the same setup as him basically, just minus the evo part!

 

[andy4g63]

600 on pump ??? Even GT 42R wouldn't do that. And Chris's cars awas at 29-30 PSI range, NOT 25 PSI. Plus there is a difference. Even, if you run 30 PSI on PUMP, that is stupid and unjustified. All the turbos stated above, even HX-40 would not make really good power bellow 30 PSI. These turbos need BOOST. That is where the power is. There are not meant to be ran at 20 PSI... You could, but it isn't worth it.

 

[Steve93Talon]

600 on pump ??? Even GT 42R wouldn't do that. And Chris's cars awas at 29-30 PSI range, NOT 25 PSI. Plus there is a difference. Even, if you run 30 PSI on PUMP, that is stupid and unjustified. All the turbos stated above, even HX-40 would not make really good power bellow 30 PSI. These turbos need BOOST. That is where the power is. There are not meant to be ran at 20 PSI... You could, but it isn't worth it.

Ams 850 Turbo on Pump 622 whp - evolutionm.net

Just because DSMers at that power level aren't running pump gas doesn't mean it's not possible. Chris's car has a single gate spring, his boost is falling to 25psi no matter where he sets it. Yes, the higher boost will result in a big torque spike, but the top end power is still dictated by where the boost falls to up top. And you're contradicting yourself by saying that 30psi on pump is stupid and unjustified and then "these turbos need boost". I'd prefer to run as much boost as possible on pump and keeping the timing and AFRs on the conservative side, versus running low boost and having a weak torque curve. My S258 setup on a stock 6 bolt made 479whp on pump at 28psi, the powerband was much more fun than a 20-25psi tune with more aggressive timing and AFRs.

 

[sb7775]

600 on pump ??? Even GT 42R wouldn't do that. And Chris's cars awas at 29-30 PSI range, NOT 25 PSI. Plus there is a difference. Even, if you run 30 PSI on PUMP, that is stupid and unjustified. All the turbos stated above, even HX-40 would not make really good power bellow 30 PSI. These turbos need BOOST. That is where the power is. There are not meant to be ran at 20 PSI... You could, but it isn't worth it.

600hp on pump is capable if you know what your doing. Nobody said I was going to run less than 30psi. Why is running 30psi stupid or unjustified? I currently run a 6152e on 33psi on pump daily its fast and fun on the street.

This post was started because i was looking for info on the NET turbos because they are not as popular as the ETT turbos. I'm not looking for opinions on weather you think it can be done. If you have hard facts on the ETT vs NET please let me know if not I'm not interested in what you think.

Steve