Just ordered comp cams

[92awddsm]

I wanted to let everyone know I just ordered the comp cams, #101200, this afternoon from my local performance shop. These are the larger cams, equivilent to the hks 272's. I will have my car on the dyno later next week to get baseline power and it will go back on the dyno after the swap. I will post a summary and dyno sheets before and after for those of you that are curious what kind of power these cams make. I would do it sooner but the cams wont be in till next weekend

 

[TSIfreek]

I hope you like your engine running like ass on the street. Bad decison for a street car 262s or equiv has a lower RPM power that street cars perform in. Another guy that wants a race car for his street car Just my 2 cents

 

[92awddsm]

Yes, I want a race car as a street car. Yes, I know the draw backs. I didnt ask anyone what they thought, I was just letting people know that I am going to dyno the comp cams since I havent seen anyone else with them.

 

[BoostinAWD]

I for one am thinking about a set of these also.
Turbo cars are all about top end power, and btw its 264 not 262.
Going 264 on intake and exhaust is a waste of $$ IMO.

I've driven cars running VPC's and 272's and they were perfectly streetable, and had gobs more low end than any stock dsm.

 

[eclipsegsx9797]

i see no problem with 272's on the street, i know some people with some crazy crower cams on the street and love them.

 

[Wobble]

264/272 combo is a popular "street/race" setup, ive seen cars with 272/272 that have no probs.. and ive see them run like crap..

depends on your needs more than anything, its not a black/white issue.

im going the Crower route myself 264/272 with a 50+ trim (havent picked turbo yet)

 

[TSIfreek]

The 272s dont pass emisions eather. Just something else to think about.

 

[eclipsegsx9797]

um ive seen tons of cars pass with 272's

 

[TurboSpoolinIns]

The 272s dont pass emisions eather. Just something else to think about.

I hope you like your engine running like ass on the street. Bad decison for a street car 262s or equiv has a lower RPM power that street cars perform in. Another guy that wants a race car for his street car Just my 2 cents

It doesn't matter if you don't have emissions. There is nothing wrong with 272s or the more aggressive Comps on the "street". All this "race only parts" talk makes me sick. Not trying to be a dick, but seriously, if you think these products are so un "streetable", then stick with a 16g and "Big" 16g because every other turbo and products that actually make serious power must be too much for the "street".


Now on the more serious side and on topic. I am curious to see how they perform on your car 92awddsm though your setup is a mild setup. I too, have a set and have yet to dyno them because the whole car is not together yet. Keep us updated on real world dyno results. Good luck.

 

[TRBOTSI]

I hope you like your engine running like ass on the street. Bad decison for a street car 262s or equiv has a lower RPM power that street cars perform in. Another guy that wants a race car for his street car Just my 2 cents

You're an idiot...No...really....you are.

 

[TSIfreek]

You're an idiot...No...really....you are.

At least I am smart enough no to put 272s on the street. All he needs is is a pair of 264s for street use unless he plans on turning 8500 all day at the track then go with the bigger profile then.

 

[92awddsm]

How the hell do you know what I need? You dont even know what my intentions are with the car. You keep making yourself look like an idiot by sayin what I "need" I will soon be putting on at least a 50 trim and 760 cc injectors soon. Goal for the car is to run high to mid 11's ny the end of the year. I dont have to worry about emissions here and if I did, the cams are the least of my emissions worries. This is not my only vehicle and yes, I will probably spin this motor to 8k rpm. Next time you decide to tell me what I need, why dont you ask what Im doing first. Better yet, dont reply with you .02 worth unless I ask. Like I said, this isnot a debate about which cams to get, so reread the first post and stay on topic.

 

[TSIfreek]

How the hell do you know what I need? You dont even know what my intentions are with the car. You keep making yourself look like an idiot by sayin what I "need" I will soon be putting on at least a 50 trim and 760 cc injectors soon. Goal for the car is to run high to mid 11's ny the end of the year. I dont have to worry about emissions here and if I did, the cams are the least of my emissions worries. This is not my only vehicle and yes, I will probably spin this motor to 8k rpm. Next time you decide to tell me what I need, why dont you ask what Im doing first. Better yet, dont reply with you .02 worth unless I ask. Like I said, this isnot a debate about which cams to get, so reread the first post and stay on topic.

Ok good luck with your car

 

[eclipsegsx9797]

there is a reason y hks 272's are on backorder because there just that damn good. ams has a test with all of the cams and 272's came out on top.



272's to much for street haha thats the funniest thing ive ever heard you must still be on a t2small turbo

 

[AMS stampy]

Anybody that thinks 272 are not streetable is just plain silly. we put 272's is more cars then I care to count. with a good tune behind a 272 you will make more power and the car will drive perfect.

Eric

 

[92awddsm]

Thats what Ive heard. The reason Im getting the comps is because I have heard a few good things about them, and a friend of mine is a comp distributor. Im getting dyno time and cams for abuot the same or a little less than hks.

 

[nix0035]

You're an idiot...No...really....you are.

Trbotsi your an idiot. Any real DSMer knows about you and your "So Called 600 wheel hp"

Keep dreaming sucka!!!

 

[DSMJim]

ams has a test with all of the cams and 272's came out on top.

elipsegsx9797 is correct, lets go back and have a look at the test page shal we?http://www.automotosports.com/cam_test.asp

Stock Mitsubishi Camshafts:
Peak HP: 309.5
Peak TRQ: 295.3
Spool up on street: quick, full boost by 3.2K RPM in 3rd gear with good power when off boost and as it's coming onto boost.

HKS 264 Intake 264 Exhaust
Peak HP: 323.1
Peak TRQ: 333.0
Spool up on street: As good as stock (3.2K RPM), with off boost power the same if not better than stock.

HKS 264 Intake 272 Exhaust
Peak HP: 324.2
Peak TRQ: 333.1
Spool up on street: Slightly slower than stock (3.3K RPM in 3rd gear) and a very slight loss in power in off boost conditions.

HKS 272 Intake 272 Exhaust
Peak HP: 325.2
Peak TRQ: 323.4
Spool up on street: Slower than stock, full boost by 3.4K RPM in 3rd gear with a slight loss in power in off boost conditions.

So it looks like this...

264/264 was 13.6 HP / 37.3 lbs/ft gaim
264/272 was +1.1 HP / 0.1 ft/lbs (over 264/264 setup) almost a waste of time
272/272 was +2.1 HP / -9.6 ft/lbs (over 264/264 setup)

The 272/272 didn't do so well because it was only a 16G equiped car had that been a larger turbo the gains would have been better with no loss in torque. Basically the point is the straight 264's will give a huge increase in power for those who worry. Anybody with the ability to tune should have no problems with the 272 combo. They are very streetable and many guys run around with them all the time.

92awddsm I'm interested to see your numbers with the comp cams to see if they are close to the gains typically seen by HKS cams.

 

[1fast97gsx]

I'd like to see the numbers as well. Once again anyone that thinks 272s aren't streetable are retarded. Generally people who buy cams are looking to race their car ... which means bigger turbo and reving it high. Why waste your money on cams before a turbo, and with a big turbo 272s are the way to go. Good luck to you.

 

[laggin3]

Have you dyno'ed it yet there spanky?

 

[!^3]

Going 264 on intake and exhaust is a waste of $$ IMO.

Word.

Just got my HKS 272's yesterday (last brand new set in the country, or so I have been told).

People all build their DSM's for different things...I just can't stand the crowd that says:

You don't need bigger than a 16g!
You don't need bigger than 2.5" exhaust!
You don't need bigger than 264 cams!
You don't need a Greddy Type R BOV!
You don't need an AEM EMS!

Heck, I don't need anything...I could ride my bike around all day long and never need a car. Of course I WANT to build a freakin' fast DSM so everything changes. Not like I was ever going to go auto-crossing in this thing...but maybe I will just to prove it can be done and show up all of the more "conservative" owners that it is possible. That seems to be a big problem in my area...all of the DSM owner's minus myself and a friend of mine (amar1995 on here) all autox their DSM's and say "you don't need forged internals!" "That's WAY TOO MUCH porting for the head!" "Don't you realize how much lag you will have?"

And I say, "SHIFT DOWN AND FLOOR IT."

Maybe I'll get tired of cars one day and just roll around in an Esca-bling. Now that's streetable

 

[92awddsm]

Im still waiting. I ordered them 2 weeks ago and they were supposed to be here this week. Well, I havent seen them so I made a phone call to find out the hold up and it seems that Comp is out of the ex cams. Now they say 1-2 more weeks and Im getting anxious/impatient. I will definately post the #'s when I get them.

 

[DSMJim]

I just can't stand the crowd that says:

You don't need bigger than a 16g!
You don't need bigger than 2.5" exhaust!
You don't need bigger than 264 cams!
You don't need a Greddy Type R BOV!
You don't need an AEM EMS!

Wow you just took the words out of my mouth. If I hear one more loser tell me that 12.1 on my turbo is not fast because XXXX person did 12.1 on a 16G im gonna ####ing punch them in the mouth. Funny thing is anybody who says that shit is never the guy who is going 12.1 on a 16G because guys who do that know how hard it is to get there. Banannas who run 14's and say they "know a guy" are gonna start to get their asses knocked out.

 

[92awddsm]

Wow you just took the words out of my mouth. If I hear one more loser tell me that 12.1 on my turbo is not fast because XXXX person did 12.1 on a 16G im gonna ####ing punch them in the mouth. Funny thing is anybody who says that shit is never the guy who is going 12.1 on a 16G because guys who do that know how hard it is to get there. Banannas who run 14's and say they "know a guy" are gonna start to get their asses knocked out.

First off Jim, I love your car. Ive been wanting a 97 or 98 tsi awd for a while. And you are right. Getting into the 12's with any 16g less than the evo III is kinda hard. I purchased my b16g more or less for breaking in the new engine. Little did I know it was going to be this fast. That is the only reason I still have it on the car. For everyones information, My car is still full weight with leather, cold ac, And all power options. That is why Im surprised with the power of my car.

 

[Wobble]

If we all only ever had or wanted just what we needed, we would all still be living in caves playing with our own sh!t