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Hmm...Interesting, New Sheet Metal Intake Any Idea's?

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When speeking about a sheetmetal intake manifold the discusions and arguments could go on for days but, Why is it that marco's (magnus) design works best? And why is it still the most populare manifold around?

The answere and ultimately the key to all manifolds is lag . mngsx touched on it be 4 . See when air is being introduced to the manifold the bigger that manifold is the more space it has to travel thus sacrificing driveability and increasing lag. If you study marco's design it tappers down closer to the last runner . Are you seeing the picture??

As the air pulses in, the first runner would obviously suck in more air , and in turn tappers off until the last runner . Well marco's design forces the air inside to circulate thus being able to supply each runner equally.

Ok let me better explain as the mount of air decreases further down the manifold , the less space there is to hold it in transit.

We all know that the fireing sequence for the runners is different so different runners sucking in different air at different times right . but the way the the air is deliverd to those runners is what makes the difference.

I personally think that marco's design is simply the most efective , most other companies would rather just copy each other's design and changing little charachteristics around to distinguish themselves for the customers.

Once their was a man who copied marco's design and made it out of cast iron , well that dident fly with alot of people ,,,two days later no one herd anything more about these cast copies . In the dsm community nobody likes to step on eachother's toes but rather help eachother out, in more ways than one.

I have a magnus sheet metal intake on my car and I love it to death aside from buying an awd talon that was probably the best and easiest choice I ever had to make about reliable horspower.;) OMG :thumb: :talon: :dsm: :cool:
 
I just bought the dejon intake manifold and installed it last night.
There are a couple of things that need to be replaced w/this manifold...a couple of hose lines and making the hole for your IC big to fit thru but other then that it's a straight shot. Here are some pic's of it along with dyno #'s coming this weekend (Hope it works out). I'm taking the car out for the first run tonight so I'll post some info about that also.:thumb:
 

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the verdict?
 
I haven't had a chance yet to drive the car .:cry: but I can tell all tomm. after the dyno.
 
As Revolution said this can go on and on and on and on and on and on and on...well i guess you get the picture.

For me personally this arguement has two sides. Performance and looks.
God forbid a DSMer' say looks.

The Magnus manifold has proven itself time and time again.

As I said before I like the look. The Magnus Sheet metal manifold is the nicest I've seen by far. I especially like how Marco relocated everything to the back of the manifold to keep it's nice clean polished look right in your face. If you have one of those under your hood people are gonna notice it right away.

#1 Badass Intake manifold
 
Originally posted by dsmturboawd
when it comes to parts like this, i could give a shit if its rainbow or chrome or whatever.

IMO.

Ok no problem we'll have Marco make it in pink for you with a honda symbol right on top...
 

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Alrighty folks, I don't have dyno #'s, instead I took it to the track. You make your opinion's.


pump gas 93
r/t...129
60'...1.8 (slicks,fwd)
330...5.082
1/8...7.723
mph...94.73
1000...10.008
1/4...11.955
mph...115.73

First time out on slicks but best time so far compared to last year was 13.9. In my opinion It's a good intake but this is just me. Also if your looking still for #'s I can get that in two weeks. Sorry I do not have a scanner to show the slip and using the digi does not work up close.:thumb:
 
Nice time man!
Great gain. Thats just with the new manifold and slicks compared to last years times or more mods also?
 
The only mods different from last year is the manifold and slicks (no freaking drag radials anymore).


As for fuel, 680 injectors (given parts, no fpr) and maft thats all.
Car is running 9.1-10.1
 
OK, so what were the mods last year? Im trying to figure out why your faster then me! =)

I run [email protected] on a PTE 50 trim with a magnus mani. Of course my AWD might be the difference in trap speed. Annd I have 91 octane instead of 93. Do you have any weight reduction?
 
Nope no weight was taken out (except for the spare and the slicks). But each dsm is different unlike srt-4's. Also the engine has 110x miles on it (yes I know it won't last to much longer).



I do have a question for you though because a friend of mine has your mani and he wants to know how do you like it. The reason for this is his has been in a box for 8 months.
 
Its good. The tapered plenum makes for good off boost driveability. I think the Dejon is the best manifold, but the magnus works well. Its priced right too, although slowboy is selling the Dejon dirt cheap right now. If the magnus had better tapered runners i would love it, but the velocity stacks are still good.

Also, 110k ain't anything. I have 231k and run 23 psi daily.
 
Here's the timesheet if anyone wants to take a look
 

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When purchasing an intake manifold you realy want to know what your goals are going to be. If it is going to be street driven you will want one with a smaller plenum so you will have less lag. If you are just going for 1/4 mile times, you want one with a larger plenum, you will probably have a bigger turbo and it will have no problem filling the plenum up quickly. A full race plenum should have a slightly larger displacement than the engine. There are many factors though when deciding the propor intake. Short or long runners will also make a difference on performance in different RPM ranges. Also how the runners are formed inside the plenum can make a difference. It realy depends on what you're going to be using the car for.

I know that the Mangus manifold has had many good reviews, and I know one of the guys on here explained it, but it just looks like the #1 cylinder would be starved of air. I couldn't see this beeing a good manifold for less than 10 second drag cars. Their is so much air going through the engine it seems like the #2,3,4 cylinders would suck up most of the air. It would be fine for a street car, but then again, I've never had one on a 10 second car.
 
that dejon intake mani is junk. for starters, its made out of freakin mild steel. weighs 1 lb lighter than the stocker, the flanges are paper thing like all his other crap, and looks like somethin someone made in theyre garage with 40$ worth of metal. not only that its overpriced crap. hal landry is doing an intake manifold test between bj's, magnus, FRH etc on his FP3065, ill get results and post, he thought wich i agree that the magnus and BJ intake manifolds will show the most power increase.
 
The last thing I'd say about this manifold is it's junk. Yes it is lighter then the stock manifold, no it's not as pretty as the other manifolds described. Does my car have a little bit of lag now yes it does but I can't complain and no one else should either until someone has dynoed their car with this manifold. As for all of the other parts that dejon makes how the hell can you say it's all crap? Damn near all, if not most of the dsm's out there have at least one part from dejon (guess this means they all buy crappy parts also).
 
ill tell you what, ive seen more complains about dejons stuff as well. friend has his FMIC kit, ive had his UICP. both had the flanges crack because theyre PAPER thin. hes cheap as well, prices way too high, he uses cheap flanges and cheap home depot coupling with ace hardware hose clamps. not someone id look for super quality work from, although his intercooler cores are nicely put together i can say the same for his piping.
 
Dejon is a good and fair shop. I think he's a good guy and tries hard to get everyone a good product for a good price. I dont think that alot of engineering went into this manifold though. I could be wrong but I see alot of flaws. I think it's a perfectly good upgrade for people who want to go faster but not spend all of their money on their car. However, I have had my own problems in the past w/ their quality, ie. leaking UIP. This leak was in the weld and I wouldn't expect much less from at least a few of these manifolds. Unless of course if they're leak testing each unit before it's sold...

Andy
 
I haven't heard to much about BJ cylinder heads aluminum intake manifold, it looks like it would do pretty well. they seem to be "about" the same price. But i don't think it'd have the driveability of Magnus' intake manifold. If anyone has heard anything about it, i would would like to hear.:talon: :dsm: :thumb:
 
Oh, damn! I mean to say I think BJ's is the best, not Dejon. I dun like Dejon's, BJ's is awesome.
 
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