Hmm...Interesting, New Sheet Metal Intake Any Idea's?

[SoSprayMe]

Originally posted by twoboosted
I've never wrote that this manifold gave a 11hp gain that was another post from I forget who but he wrote that he read it on another web site. But yes I did say the manifold is better then the stock one. Hope that helps.

Originally posted by anconover
those manifolds being? because ive seen a post, a dsm club forum ill look, said dejon intake manifold added 11whp. swapped it for the BJ and gained 27whp no other tuning. the dejon manifold wasnt carefully tested and designed. basically it looks like he sketched up one, made it, and sold it. wether someone thinks its good or not, its overpriced for using MILD STEEL, and looks poorly crafted. the the flanges like his other things look on the thin side. people have much different tolerances of lag, many say the 50trim is laggy, they in my opinion are on CRACK.

but by all means u run mid 11's, obviously you knw what the best intake manifold is. you guys can bench race between these damn manifolds and use the butt dyno to decide, but PROOF is the real deciding factor between these all. and magnus's 54whp gain is pretty impressive.

and BTW the magnus design manifold was good enough for 650whp so far, so i dont see a problem with it.

Yes you did, and a ported stock manifold is better then stock manifold. But thats not 400$. Where is the 'astonished' smiley thing?

Hmm,

 

[L2RTSiAWD]

You posted 2 quotes from different people.

Anconover said he found a post some where saying the dehon was 11whp increase and then the person swapped in a BJ and got 27whp

 

[twoboosted]

Originally posted by SoSprayMe
Yes you did, and a ported stock manifold is better then stock manifold. But thats not 400$. Where is the 'astonished' smiley thing?

Hmm,

Here ya go....."If the manifold gives ME 11 or 30hp I still say it's worth it. I will find out this weekend what it has given me."



That's what I wrote and thank you for reading it. So I guess a ported manifold is better then the dejon manifold? If it is so be it but the thread was started to discuss the new product that Dave made. Maybe we can get back to that? Either way I'm happy with the product and thought by giving my OPINION on it I could help out. Not going back and forth over your quote and mine. Long story short the product worked for me did it give the most hp I don't know but I'm sure as hell happy with my timeslip. So whatever you want to pick apart about this please go ahead.

 

[SoSprayMe]

Originally posted by SoSprayMe
Yes you did, and a ported stock manifold is better then stock manifold. But thats not 400$. Where is the 'astonished' smiley thing?

Hmm,

Yes, I am aware I quoted two different people. I was refering to him saying it's better then a stock int/man. And that is why I continued with that. And he went with the 11whp/30whp thing in his previous post so I brought it up.

Our past few posts have been concerning Dejon's manifold, what else would we have been talking about?

I still don't see how you accept a 2second improvement in your 1/4mile time is solely thanks to a Manifold. And yes slicks.

 

[twoboosted]

Originally posted by SoSprayMe
Yes, I am aware I quoted two different people. I was refering to him saying it's better then a stock int/man. And that is why I continued with that. And he went with the 11whp/30whp thing in his previous post so I brought it up.

Our past few posts have been concerning Dejon's manifold, what else would we have been talking about?

I still don't see how you accept a 2second improvement in your 1/4mile time is solely thanks to a Manifold. And yes slicks.

Since this is all that has been done to my car since then that's how I can accept it. If you can't sorry to hear it. Happy hunting for the next thread.

 

[SoSprayMe]

You're car ran 2seconds faster with the int/man being your only modification? Or do you mean you don't know enough about intake manifolds to disagree with what you were told?

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[L2RTSiAWD]

This threads treading the line of being locked,

If he sayd it was 2 sec. quicker either believe it or don't, this thread went off-topic and it better get back on topic quick.

 

[twoboosted]

Back to what this thread was about, for me this manifold has worked. I'm not trying to tell anyone to go right out and get it with out any type of #'s or proven performance listed on a web site. I'm just stating what I've found out after using this manifold and how my times have dropped. It is a shame to bad mouth it because it either doesn't bling or doesn't look like it was crafted from something special. That's all I'll say about that. If anyone has a question about the install or anything else related to the manifold please do hesitate to ask. No I'm not an expert or claim to know everything about manifolds either.

 

[Revolution]

ok where do I begin. First off im very happy another indavidual has steped in the performance product arena. With that being said maybe it is better than stock , but for future references I hope you could tell Dave about our conserns.

My main concern is material, why use mild steel? Maybe in the future he could use a less hefty material.

As a reference I will use the magnus Intake SRICTLY BECAUSE I OWN ONE, AND HAVE ANYLIZED IT ON COUNTLESS TIMES .


By balencing the distribushion of material you could make the manifold lighter. Thiner mani walls with thick flanges would do great for heat absorbtion.

An oval design would definitally be trick ,and great for flow.

Nothing stays the same ,everything evolves as I am almost positive this dejon intake mani will too. I personally think this was a great way for a vendor or builder to see what we the public whant ,so Knowing some one will show this thread of OPINIONS to dave , thanx ffor another mani bro Im excited to see what It will look like next as it evolves.

 

[dsmturboawd]

take the slicks off and go back to the track.

 

[twoboosted]

Originally posted by dsmturboawd
take the slicks off and go back to the track.

I'll be using drag radials.

 

[BoostinAWD]

Or better yet, run the stock mani and then the dejon, back to back.
With the slicks...

 

[SoSprayMe]

Originally posted by BoostinAWD
Or better yet, run the stock mani and then the dejon, back to back.
With the slicks...

hahaha
Tell the announcers to inform the people in the stands that the reason for a 2second slower pass in the same car isn't just a bad run but an Intake Manifold Swap from Dejon down to Stock.

Good luck,

 

[Revolution]

Ok no more plugging any more. The bs has been called and therfor this is no longer a thread deemed for this elite branch of dsm tuners.

ps. this intake manifold discussion is all over this board and tons of other boards if you want to know more im pretty shure you will have no problems finding the facts from non byesd racers and enthusiasts.


Ps.. dont pm me trying to flame me for saying that this has gotten out of control , that is not cool,,,,,,,,, so dont.

 

[pneumo]

For all of you who have an aftermarket intake manifold, could you please post the runner length?

 

[twoboosted]

Let me guess this is how dsmers help each other? I'm not being biased about any manifold the thread was started about dejon's. So I figured I'd give me thoughts about it. Anyway this is what I've done to my car since last year so take it for whatever it's worth. As for attacking me about being a true race or being biased because I happen to like one manifold over another is just grade school stuff.

 

[SoSprayMe]

Originally posted by pneumo
For all of you who have an aftermarket intake manifold, could you please post the runner length?

Good question. I'm looking for the longest runners possible. I believe with the Magnus design 6.5" is doable, any feedback on that? What exactly are the Magnus' runner's inside dimensions on the terminating side. Anywhere near 1.75" x 2.75" small radius'ed?

Hmm,

 

[pneumo]

Longest runners possible, eh?

The stock IM has 14" long runners measured from where the manifold meets the head to where the runners open up in the plenum. That's long! Too long.

So how long are the runners on these other manifolds?

 

[SoSprayMe]

Originally posted by pneumo
Longest runners possible, eh?

The stock IM has 14" long runners measured from where the manifold meets the head to where the runners open up in the plenum. That's long! Too long.

So how long are the runners on these other manifolds?

Yeah I guess I should have expected that. Lets get on the same page, straight runners not 'half of a rib cage' style stock intake. Sorry should have specified.

Word,



To answer your question 6.5" was what I was looking at.

 

[smokehouse_83]

How would an intake manifold do that is built like an exaust header? I saw a venom intake for the cavalier that was built that way. You could take a merge collector from a header kit weld a mitsu intake manifold tb flange on one side and do equal length tubes to a intake to head flange. You could use longer tubes since it would double as your endtank, I would think air distribution would be good since air wouldnt have to work its way into the tubes from the tank in which it would go into the nearest cylinder, but instead come in through the throttle body straight into the tubes going to each cylinder and it would be light as hell. Now I dont want to see this design on some car without giving me props !

Drew

 

[SoSprayMe]

Originally posted by smokehouse_83
How would an intake manifold do that is built like an exaust header? I saw a venom intake for the cavalier that was built that way. You could take a merge collector from a header kit weld a mitsu intake manifold tb flange on one side and do equal length tubes to a intake to head flange. You could use longer tubes since it would double as your endtank, I would think air distribution would be good since air wouldnt have to work its way into the tubes from the tank in which it would go into the nearest cylinder, but instead come in through the throttle body straight into the tubes going to each cylinder and it would be light as hell. Now I dont want to see this design on some car without giving me props !

Drew

whatever floats your boat. I kinda gave up reading that midway through but what the hell. Try it out.

 

[ItsStockOfficer]

Originally posted by smokehouse_83
How would an intake manifold do that is built like an exaust header? I saw a venom intake for the cavalier that was built that way. You could take a merge collector from a header kit weld a mitsu intake manifold tb flange on one side and do equal length tubes to a intake to head flange. You could use longer tubes since it would double as your endtank, I would think air distribution would be good since air wouldnt have to work its way into the tubes from the tank in which it would go into the nearest cylinder, but instead come in through the throttle body straight into the tubes going to each cylinder and it would be light as hell. Now I dont want to see this design on some car without giving me props !

Drew

alot of torque and no top end.

 

[aliengotpsi]

Dejon tool is Mild Steel.... Mile steel is like 1/3 of the cost of aluminum.. so his manifold should cost. 1/3 of 550.00 hmmm sounds like it should be cheapr than it is.


You pay for you want you get....!!!

I run the stock Inake manifold with a small 50 trim and ran 11.2ET 125.7 mph Just think if i get the Dejon one....

Kevin Smith
Straightlinespecialties.com

 

[hostile]

What is a small 50 trim? And how are you trapping 125 on a 50 trim?

 

[aliengotpsi]

What I mean by a small 50 trim is the stage one wheel and not the GT wheel either. My best trap is 125.7 mph

Never seen any dyno time with the set up. All it takes it some race fuel 24psi and give er hell.. I used a data logger to make sure I didnt get any knock.. on my stock motor.. I got a movie of the run on my site.


Kevin Smith
Straightlinespecialties.com