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Drew, there is no way to quantify just how far you have advanced the reputation and performance of these cars, but I hope you sleep easier knowing that it is by leaps and bounds.

Its absolutely insane that you are offering *Your* aero package to the community. equally ridiculous that you are doing so at that price. Most would guard the secrets of such costly development with the lives of poorly paid security guards.

the vast development gap between 'our' cars and evo/sti's and the like, grew a little smaller when you decided to release that design. I sincerely hope that you will hold onto those molds and consider (on a case-by-case basis of course) releasing individual 'kits' to campaigning track teams. That would be an immense help to future teams. being that you have already recouped the cost of the molds what could it hurt to leave the door open if a just cause was found. :)

I understand what you are saying with the costs of correctly making that hard top work on a street car. I do think there is a fair market for a similar design for street going spiders. look at what miata guys shell out for a good hard top, let alone a functional one. To me your roof is really the first time i have found spider's side profile attractive with the top up. sadly i think you may be correct about having to sacrifice the function of the design to sell a street version, very few if any would want the hard core track version of your hard top. even if it performs even better than it looks.

I hope the risk for people creating a knock off is a little decreased by the aggressiveness of this kit. plus if a person were too cheap to buy this kit made properly they would likely be too cheap to spend an additional large lump of change on 295's and matching wheels. I hope anyway.
I assume you are unfamiliar with the TRD2000GT kit which was offered for the mr2. Not nearly as functional as yours but more or less the only functionally designed kit offered for the car with the R&D backing of TRD. It was a very limited production kit, and it was discontinued long before the demand for it ever peaked. So it was obvious to anyone with greater resources than morality that there was a good deal of money to be made. Anyone seeking that kit now can shell out serious coin for a really poorly produced knock off and often because of the cost of fixing a poor fitting kit people spend more than they would have on a real kit. Anyway the point is just about anyone wanting functional Aero on those cars would rather buy from the original producer but cant, chances are if TRD still offered the kit there would probably be no knockoffs at all.



I will sleep a little more soundly knowing that at least 5 of your little monsters will be running around causing the competition to loose sleep trying to figure out how those #*%#!! dsm's got so much quicker.

-Cheers!
 
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this is so unfair..... i would have asked for a loan only to get this.

Congrats to all the people who are able to get this, its just a treasure and as always i cant get it...

FML

Cheers Drew, at least a group will be happy
 
I can't imagine the time thats been spent in a wind tunnel developing this aero kit to perform/function out on the track, then for you to turn around and manufacture it and put a price on it is even crazier. From what I understand from reading through this thread only 5 FULL kits will be made but is there any chance that in the future pieces of the kit will be produced and sold if theres enough interest from the community? I ask because I'm looking for a fiberglass hood that can effectively pull hot air out of the engine bay and I'm assuming those vents in the hood function as designed.

Once again, great car Drew. I'm hoping one of these days I'm able to catch you at RRE.

:dsm:

You can buy that hood. Search for Scoote 2. I got them making me a CF one that will be delivered to me in Jan.

Link: Scoote 2 Hood | D32A [99ECL-SC2010] - $299.00 : Chaser Aerodynamics, LLC.
 
i actually just looked at that hood and I am considering it. I really like that it is offered in fiberglass rather that fiberglass with 1 layer of CF over it at twice the price LOL.

It appears as though the underside has a shell to block up the vets and keep the weather out. which would actually be sweet if it was easy to remove and reinstall but i doubt it is. i suspect you are to chose if you want that cover on or off when you get it. Even if that under layer is bonded on i would have no problem buying that hood and modifying it to be be fully functional. after all its just fiberglass :)
 
To the people that have asked Drew question/ commented ETC.


Drew want me to let you guys know that non US access has been locked down and he has not been able to get on since he went back to Japan. He is working with the Mods to resolve the problem. He will be on here as soon as he can.


Thanks

Kevin
 
Hey guys,

The Scoote 2 hood looks similar but there are some that I think make the hood on this body quite different. Materials and construction are completely different. We designed this hood to support the loads that it will endure making downforce. This hood makes a significant amount. The vent angles are completely different, there are integrated ramps around the duct work that cause them to move more air out from under-hood.

As this hood evolved it used to melt the paint off of itself directly over the exhaust manifold. Now it doesn't have that problem because it moves SO much air through the engine bay that the manifold doesn't even get that hot anymore. We changed details of this hood design at least four times before this final version was molded.

This hood could be adapted to work on a standard fender car but it will take some modification by your body shop. What exactly I cant say, I wouldn't support that configuration but it can be done.
 
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We changed details of this hood design at least four times before this final version was molded.

and thats why your competition does not stand a chance. on something as important as heat extraction most of the teams will stop at good enough on a single hood design..
 
Hey guys,

The Scoote 2 hood looks similar but there are some that I think make the hood on this body quite different. Materials and construction are completely different. We designed this hood to support the loads that it will endure making downforce. This hood makes a significant amount. The vent angles are completely different, there are integrated ramps around the duct work that cause them to move more air out from under-hood.

As this hood evolved it used to melt the paint off of itself directly over the exhaust manifold. Now it doesn't have that problem because it moves SO much air through the engine bay that the manifold doesn't even get that hot anymore. We changed details of this hood design at least four times before this final version was molded.

This hood could be adapted to work on a standard fender car but it will take some modification by your body shop. What exactly I cant say, I wouldn't support that configuration but it can be done.
So your saying that if there's enough interest we've got a chance for this hood to be produced more than just 5 times like the rest of the aero kit or no? :aha:

:dsm:
 
Basically the issue with mass producing this is that we are not a sales shop, we are a race team. When you sell stuff you need to answer phones in a timely fashion, be available for the constant stream of people buying the kits and needing support.

We are a race team, not a sales team. So when we sell these kits, we give the buyers our personal mobile phone numbers or my home phone number overseas with instructions to call in the afternoon so they dont wake me and my girl up at night. We get insane busy preparing for events and having a small small group of people we know and help on an individual basis after they buy the kit is the only way we can manage selling something like this. Our goal was not to make profit, it was to just break even on molding the kit. We take care of our customers too, so the price tag and the quantity to produce is unfortunate but necessary for us.
 
Saw you guys out at Super Lap Finals, congrats on the 1:55 (and 1:41.9 in the NSX)! I want whatever aero is on your GST. Seriously, any kind of viable road course support for DSM platforms is very welcomed for those of us who like the twisties. BTW a bit of topic, but are you on TrackHQ as well?



If you could see this thing churn out a few laps I bet you'd change your mind.


Thanks mate! really appreciate it! Yah I am on trackHQ as well! I cant wait to see the car run at full potential.
 
Drew, there is no way to quantify just how far you have advanced the reputation and performance of these cars, but I hope you sleep easier knowing that it is by leaps and bounds.

Its absolutely insane that you are offering *Your* aero package to the community. equally ridiculous that you are doing so at that price. Most would guard the secrets of such costly development with the lives of poorly paid security guards.

the vast development gap between 'our' cars and evo/sti's and the like, grew a little smaller when you decided to release that design. I sincerely hope that you will hold onto those molds and consider (on a case-by-case basis of course) releasing individual 'kits' to campaigning track teams. That would be an immense help to future teams. being that you have already recouped the cost of the molds what could it hurt to leave the door open if a just cause was found. :)

I understand what you are saying with the costs of correctly making that hard top work on a street car. I do think there is a fair market for a similar design for street going spiders. look at what miata guys shell out for a good hard top, let alone a functional one. To me your roof is really the first time i have found spider's side profile attractive with the top up. sadly i think you may be correct about having to sacrifice the function of the design to sell a street version, very few if any would want the hard core track version of your hard top. even if it performs even better than it looks.

I hope the risk for people creating a knock off is a little decreased by the aggressiveness of this kit. plus if a person were too cheap to buy this kit made properly they would likely be too cheap to spend an additional large lump of change on 295's and matching wheels. I hope anyway.
I assume you are unfamiliar with the TRD2000GT kit which was offered for the mr2. Not nearly as functional as yours but more or less the only functionally designed kit offered for the car with the R&D backing of TRD. It was a very limited production kit, and it was discontinued long before the demand for it ever peaked. So it was obvious to anyone with greater resources than morality that there was a good deal of money to be made. Anyone seeking that kit now can shell out serious coin for a really poorly produced knock off and often because of the cost of fixing a poor fitting kit people spend more than they would have on a real kit. Anyway the point is just about anyone wanting functional Aero on those cars would rather buy from the original producer but cant, chances are if TRD still offered the kit there would probably be no knockoffs at all.



I will sleep a little more soundly knowing that at least 5 of your little monsters will be running around causing the competition to loose sleep trying to figure out how those #*%#!! dsm's got so much quicker.

-Cheers!

Thanks for the words mate! I think you are right about there being a gap between our cars and others but I think you got it the wrong direction, ours are better!
 
I didn't want to read through all the pages is anyone ordering this kit for their DD or weekend car?
 
Thanks for the words mate! I think you are right about there being a gap between our cars and others but I think you got it the wrong direction, ours are better!

ha ha perhaps, perhaps. i suppose it could just be a gap in the funding on my end. ROFL
 
I didn't want to read through all the pages is anyone ordering this kit for their DD or weekend car?

Yeah it's going on my dd/weekend car :) At least until it's actually installed and I realize it's not streetable with such a low front spoiler. I expect this car to turn into a track only car in a couple years leaving my evo for full dd duty.
 
Wow thats a hell of a kit, we are currently installing a functional kit from LG Motorsports on our Formula D C6 and its not the prettiest thing but the functional part greatly outweighs the asthetic end. I wish I had picked up my Talon sooner so I wouldn't have come across this so late, I'd love to have a DSM scaring the evo's at ButtonWillow LOL
 
One of the buyers of the body just threw the hood on a stock car to see how it was. He said the fitment was good but of course we cant make any guarantees, it was really meant for the full widebody. He also said the car runs 15 deg cooler and he needs a different thermostat now.

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