HID kits

[avaien]

Anyone got any links to places that sell both the high and low beam hid kits for a 99 gs-t?

 

[Defiant]

Originally posted by avaien
Anyone got any links to places that sell both the high and low beam hid kits for a 99 gs-t?

From what I've heard, they've been pulled off the market for now. I don't know if they'll be coming back, the Feds are looking into glare complaints.

 

['96_Talon_TSi]

You can always get some HID's from another car and have them retro fitted.

www.hidtech.com

 

[UW95GST]

Don't put HIDs in high beams...it's pointless...there is a reason OEM cars don't have HID systems in their highs and fogs.

If you have that much money to spend, get a HID system and do it correctly.

I am in the process of retrofitting OEM projectors with a true xenon system.

 

[PaulPDX]

Originally posted by Defiant
From what I've heard, they've been pulled off the market for now. I don't know if they'll be coming back, the Feds are looking into glare complaints.

The Feds have already made a ruling. Retrofit HID's are all illegal for use and sale. However, some vendors continue to sell kits... so there is probably a loophole somewhere. I assume those who are still selling have moved or registered their business outside of US borders.

To the original poster... HID kits are sold all over the web. Do a web search?? Hundreds of results with just 2 seconds of work.

Halogen bulbs work better for high beam... reason is HIDs require a warm-up time to reach full output, because of that... you can't really flash your high beams to indicate passing (common practice in Europe).

 

[tlnpwr]

hmm, interesting. but they are still coming on cars as a factory option, right?

 

[PaulPDX]

Originally posted by tlnpwr
hmm, interesting. but they are still coming on cars as a factory option, right?

"Retrofit"

If it comes with the car as a OEM equipment it's legal.

 

[UW95GST]

Keep in mind...lots of the mods we stick on are likely illegal (offroad use only).

 

[DSMJim]

HID in a halogen housing produce a whole lot of glare, they should be ilegal. I have retro-fit Audi A6 HID in my Talon and while I don't get high-beemed ever, my car does have a lot of glare to coming traffic. I turned my headlights down as far as they go and tried to aim them as best as possible, but they still glare badly.

HID in a proper housing (as done by OEM) do not glare like retrofit kits and looks really nice. Retrofit lights like what I have acctually put less light on the road and more light everywhere else. They look really pimp, but really don't work very well. Honestly just keep your regular lights and forget about HID until you buy a car that comes with them factory.

 

[UW95GST]

Originally posted by DSMJim
HID in a halogen housing produce a whole lot of glare, they should be ilegal. I have retro-fit Audi A6 HID in my Talon and while I don't get high-beemed ever, my car does have a lot of glare to coming traffic. I turned my headlights down as far as they go and tried to aim them as best as possible, but they still glare badly.

HID in a proper housing (as done by OEM) do not glare like retrofit kits and looks really nice. Retrofit lights like what I have acctually put less light on the road and more light everywhere else. They look really pimp, but really don't work very well. Honestly just keep your regular lights and forget about HID until you buy a car that comes with them factory.

How did you retrofit your kit? Maybe we can compare notes.

 

['96_Talon_TSi]

I know HID tech sells all factory equipped systems, like the Hella Ballast used in audi cars. I think the only real way to get aorund the law is if you have projector lenses to keep the light from glaring above the bumper and keep it on the road. Could be wrong though.

 

[PaulPDX]

Originally posted by '96_Talon_TSi
I know HID tech sells all factory equipped systems, like the Hella Ballast used in audi cars. I think the only real way to get aorund the law is if you have projector lenses to keep the light from glaring above the bumper and keep it on the road. Could be wrong though.

Wrong. It's still a retrofit by definition of the ruling. The vehicle has to leave the assembly line with the HID system for it to be legal. Say you have a '97 Audi A4 and you bought the European spec genuine A4 HID headlights and ballasts to use on your US spec A4, it's still considered a retrofit even though the HID system was designed by the manufacturer for that car. Goofy law, but that's how governments are.

 

['96_Talon_TSi]

Originally posted by PaulPDX
Wrong. It's still a retrofit by definition of the ruling. The vehicle has to leave the assembly line with the HID system for it to be legal. Say you have a '97 Audi A4 and you bought the European spec genuine A4 HID headlights and ballasts to use on your US spec A4, it's still considered a retrofit even though the HID system was designed by the manufacturer for that car. Goofy law, but that's how governments are.

Ahhh, i was unawares of that. I figured that if it was a system used on a factory car, it was legal.

I guess you learn something new everyday.

 

[UW95GST]

Originally posted by '96_Talon_TSi
Ahhh, i was unawares of that. I figured that if it was a system used on a factory car, it was legal.

I guess you learn something new everyday.

It is LEGAL for companies to sell OEM HID parts, but illegal to sell retrofit kits (9006, 9005, etc). It is ILLEGAL to use a OEM system on a non-oem application (a HID set up with projectors aimed incorrectly are even worse than retrofit kits).

...kinda reminds me of that line from pulp fiction..

VINCENT

Yeah, it breaks down like this:
it's legal to buy it, it's legal to
own it and, if you're the
proprietor of a hash bar, it's
legal to sell it. It's legal to
carry it, which doesn't really
matter 'cause -- get a load of this
-- if the cops stop you, it's
illegal for this to search you.
Searching you is a right that the
cops in Amsterdam don't have.

 

[Defiant]

The US has always been HUA about lighting. Halogens weren't legal here until.... '92? It's why otherwise good-looking cars (such as the 1Gs) were saddled with pop-ups- they were still using sealed-beam headlights. It started in the thirties when silvered light reflectors would tarnish and lose output. So we outlawed everything but sealed-beam units, and we were stuck with that crap for fifty years (while Europe and the rest of the planet could not only see where they were going in the dark, they also were using headlights for styling).

Interestingly, one of the first cars here to use "styled" lights was the bargain-basement Hyundai Excel, which sold for $5000. Quite the shock to the economy owner to find out a broken headlight was $150 to replace.

 

[DSMJim]

Originally posted by UW95GST
How did you retrofit your kit? Maybe we can compare notes.

I made up a relay system to pull power from the battery to power the HID and the power wire from my headlights as the trigger for the relay. If this makes no sense look up how relays work (not saying you but anybody else reading this)

The balast and bulb were taken from an Audi A6 and the ballast was mounted in a spot that looks like a good place for it. The bult was put into the housing where the stock bulb goes and the wire that holds the stock bulb down was bent out a bit to make it hold the HID bulb. Then I just pluged it in and away I went.

Pretty well nothing to it really. I may pull mine out and get rid of them because they don't aim very well and I can't get projectors for my car so there is not much sense of keeping them.

 

[UW95GST]

I had a relay system on my old car, not sure if I will need one for the Eclipse. If you look at the 900x plug that supplies power in OEM applications the wires look to be teh same guage.

I too am using the A6 ballasts and projectors, I'm going to fit them into a set of projector lights. Pics when that all comes together.

Originally posted by DSMJim
I made up a relay system to pull power from the battery to power the HID and the power wire from my headlights as the trigger for the relay. If this makes no sense look up how relays work (not saying you but anybody else reading this)

The balast and bulb were taken from an Audi A6 and the ballast was mounted in a spot that looks like a good place for it. The bult was put into the housing where the stock bulb goes and the wire that holds the stock bulb down was bent out a bit to make it hold the HID bulb. Then I just pluged it in and away I went.

Pretty well nothing to it really. I may pull mine out and get rid of them because they don't aim very well and I can't get projectors for my car so there is not much sense of keeping them.

 

[earthwonder83]

I have a BMW HID projector, bulbs, and ballasts in my Eclipse. Do not put a hid kit into any eclipse/talon w/o putting a hid projector in there. I did this...its too much glare and I even made a shield to prevent glare. With the BMW projector, there is zero glare and the light output is just as good as it was on a BMW. I used E46 projectors(BMW 3 series).

 

[PaulPDX]

FYI, Sylvania is having a sale on their auxilary HID kit. Bascially a driving/fog type light kit but HID. Around $280. Pretty good deal...especially for the 1G guys. Lamps should replace the stock fogs 1G nicely. I'd do it if I had the money and just eliminate the popup lights. Go to overboost.com and click on the Sylvania banner... or just go to the Sylvania online store.

 

[earthwonder83]

Heres a front shot of my BMW projectors in the stock housings.

 

[DSMJim]

any info on how you got those in there? I have a set of those projectors myself.

 

[earthwonder83]

It was hell dude... Took me about two full days to figure out what I'm doing and another day just to properly align the projectors. I'm planning on having a 2G specific writeup up on the web by Sat. or Sun. I"ll get back to this thread about the writeup.

 

[Velo7825]

Originally posted by DSMJim
I made up a relay system to pull power from the battery to power the HID and the power wire from my headlights as the trigger for the relay. If this makes no sense look up how relays work (not saying you but anybody else reading this)

The balast and bulb were taken from an Audi A6 and the ballast was mounted in a spot that looks like a good place for it. The bult was put into the housing where the stock bulb goes and the wire that holds the stock bulb down was bent out a bit to make it hold the HID bulb. Then I just pluged it in and away I went.

Pretty well nothing to it really. I may pull mine out and get rid of them because they don't aim very well and I can't get projectors for my car so there is not much sense of keeping them.

So you didn't retrofit? you just put the stock HID bulbs in your stock housings with the stock reflectors? When I think of retrofit you need to have the projectors too, because thats whats getting retrofited.

And yes those stock reflectors are your problem.

You should be able to find some projectors that will fit into your stock housing. that www.hidtech.com website should have all the info you need.

 

[PaulPDX]

That's still a retrofit.

Retrofit = installing something new after it has left the assembly line.

 

[earthwonder83]

As far as I know there are two retrofit options:
Halogen Retrofit-bulbs and ballasts only.
OEM Retrofit-projector, bulbs, and ballasts.