2G help turbo upgrade

[reezen65]

Im new to the dsm world i just bought a 95 eagle talon tsi fwd i know its not the cool awd one but i have a gt37 turbo off of my 2006 f350 that i upgraded i believe ot will bolt on but wat else do i need i wanna run 12s at least wat do i need to do motor wise to make this turbo bolt up and run good... future plans wire tuck also help in that department would. Be great as well

 

[91tsi_awd]

You will need to upgrade your fuel system Injectors, fuel pump, afpr. You will need better metering, an aftermarket boost gauge and a wideband o2. You will need something to tune (dsmlink, megasquirt etc). You will need a fmic (your stock smic will heatsoak in no time; trying to cool all the air you are pushing through it). You will need a larger diameter exhaust to let the turbo breathe. I would also suggest good cams to further increase the powerband of the turbo. The gt37 is a rather capable turbo, at the very least i would install arp head studs and a cosmetic head gasket. But personally I would get a built/stroker bottom end to help with spool and reliability; However stock blocks have held upto 600whp. And if you really want a "cool" awd car you are in luck because 2g's can be swapped over with relative ease.

 

[Bud92gsx]

A gt37r to run 12s is like bringing a gatling gun to a .22 shoot.

Tires,fuel,tuning,Up to 20g turbo,fmic,and suspension,and your probably in the 12s..At half the cost of the purchase price of the 37r.Z

 

[reezen65]

A gt37r to run 12s is like bringing a gatling gun to a .22 shoot.

Tires,fuel,tuning,Up to 20g turbo,fmic,and suspension,and your probably in the 12s..At half the cost of the purchase price of the 37r.Z

Awesome. Thanks for the info but the turbo came on my truck i just put a stage 3 arora in my truck so the 37 was free so wat the capabilitys of this turbo i know it pushed a 2006 f350 running 14s i just dont know much about tuners specs and limits etc

 

[Bud92gsx]

Not that a 37r on a dsm wouldnt be an absolute monster.Plus thats what you have laying around.But If your goal is 12s,again gatling gun at .22 shoot.

We like cheap go faster mods.If you had a cummins and a hx35,40 laying around itd be a different story.

Do some more searching.Hell your a deisel guy,You could probably track down a trade with the 37r, and fund a large portion of a 12 second fwd car.

 

[4GEEBUS63]

Forums with out memes is like oreo with out filling.

OP: www.buschurracing.com

They have a stage program for DSMs that is GREAT guidance for anyone new to the cars.

 

[reezen65]

Not that a 37r on a dsm wouldnt be an absolute monster.Plus thats what you have laying around.But If your goal is 12s,again gatling gun at .22 shoot.

We like cheap go faster mods.If you had a cummins and a hx35,40 laying around itd be a different story.

Do some more searching.Hell your a deisel guy,You could probably track down a trade with the 37r, and fund a large portion of a 12 second fwd car.

Awesome i want a monster so wat do u think the car could do with the 37 i know its big and gonna cost but this will b my first tuner build im super excited about. It i mean is thos gonna me some fast and the furious stuff or wat

 

[LandSpeed-DSM]

If you're serious about running the 37R and want input were going to need a lot more information.

Budget, for starters, will make or break your build.

Is this going to be your daily driver? Weekend warrior?

Which "37R" do you have, specifically: Compressor wheel inducer/exducer, turbine housing flange and A/R. There are a few different turbos vendors are selling to different platforms as a 37R.

A proper GT3788R has a 63.5mm compressor inducer and three different T4 housings available.

No one will be able to guess your ET/Trap potential or the power you'll make. Just give you a ballpark on what the turbo you found can support.

 

[reezen65]

If you're serious about running the 37R and want input were going to need a lot more information.

Budget, for starters, will make or break your build.

Is this going to be your daily driver? Weekend warrior?

Which "37R" do you have, specifically: Compressor wheel inducer/exducer, turbine housing flange and A/R. There are a few different turbos vendors are selling to different platforms as a 37R.

A proper GT3788R has a 63.5mm compressor inducer and three different T4 housings available.

No one will be able to guess your ET/Trap potential or the power you'll make. Just give you a ballpark on what the turbo you found can support.

Its. A stock Garrett turbo off of my 2006 f350 this will be a drag car money isn't an issue i want the best of everything id like to be able. To drive it around if i wanted to but it will be a garage kept race car i dont know anything about wat is good and bad for these cars or wat they are capable. Of

 

[4GEEBUS63]

Money is always an issue.

And if you really have that much to throw around, go talk to Magnus racing.

 

[Pipnorcali]

My 12sec fwd recipe
t28/16g 3" cutout, slicks, motor mounts, clutch, 720cc or bigger inj., fpr, dsmlink v3, some coilovers 18+psi should do it pretty easy.

 

[Seamus]

U need an e85 ready fuel system, dsmlink, manifold/wasfegate and downpipe to hang the turbo, clutch, tires, intercooler, do the timing belt, and that's about it beyond the obvious stuff like cooler plugs, hoses, clamps etc. Or sell the car for an awd 1g or 2g and start with a way superior platform.

 

[92AWDHX40]

Get the mods, start from the bottom, and work your way up took me years to get where im at and im no where near done.

 

[JusMX141]

You can't use a 6.0 Powerstroke GT3782VA turbo on a DSM. It has an electronically-controlled VGT system that operates on oil pressure, it's not linkage-operated like a Holset.

Not to mention there are no flanges available to make this possible, it would take up a RIDICULOUS amount of space in the engine bay, and it would be a laggy pig to produce the amount of airflow it does. Just a bad idea any way you look at it.

 

[Seamus]

Not to mention if you are going to hassle with fwd you might as well getssomething light like a Honda or a colt. take away the awd and a DSM doesn't look so attractive anymore. If you are looking to make 400+ HP you should really build the motor anyways if you are starting with some
engine with a bunch of miles on it.and you are replacing all of the components in the factory turbo system. If iwas going fwd drag racing I'd rather use a Honda and build a good motor combo for that.

 

[mikewright1252]

go get you a gt35r ball bearing that will fit and the only thing you need to make it fit is some new fans and all the things that was said above

 

[JusMX141]

A 35R...to run 12's.

 

[mikewright1252]

with bigger injectors, cam's, new e85 fuel system, and a dsm link i would say 12's is a range he can get

 

[JusMX141]

On a 14B or 16G, sure. You don't need a $2000 GT35R, $700 T3 manifold, and $500 external gate setup to run 12's.

Going back about 13 or 14 years, a good friend of mine went 12.69 with a Big 16G @ 18psi, 550's, Supra Sidemount, and tuning with a SAFC in his 1G. Simplest setup I've ever seen that was totally effective.

 

[mikewright1252]

right but why stop at 12's he said money is not a issue go big or go home