2G Has anyone ordered and installed a Silicone Hose kit from Amazon?

[Drop Top Road Trip]

I'm wondering if anybody has any experience with the silicone radiator hose kits from Amazone. These kits include all of the coolant lines all over the engine. I just got mine and haven't yet installed it and am wondering if anyone else here has had a set on their car for a while and what their experience with the kit is. If you don't have one of these kits on your car, I'm sorry to sound rude but, I don't really need your opinion. Thanks in advance all.

 

[PlanZero]

I have those "G Plus" hoses from Amazon/eBay and they've been holding up fine for about 3 or 4 years. I have the whole kit on one car and just the rad hoses on another. Theyre good quality 4 layer silicone.
Don't fall for the $150 rad hose ruse. Nowadays quality silicone hoses and couplers can be found for cheap.

 

[JPenny]

I also had the g plus silicone hoses..on my car it seemed a few hoses were a little long like water pipe to oil cooler and to heater core just minor trimming. Other than that seemed a little close to the shifter weight. But good quality product I would recommend/use again. Thank you for your time, Jason Penny

 

[CrackedDSM]

I have the g-plus as well. Have been using them on at least 5-6 of my personal dsms which all are still using them with great results. They are long on purpose so when you trim it, it’s a perfect fit.

But with confidence. The eBay aluminum radiators are awesome too.

 

[jinscho]

I just bought and installed the GPlus kit with silicone vacuum lines on my fresh build and the only issue I have is with the clamps. I hate that they include cheap wormscrew style clamps with silicone hoses, but I also understand that you get what you pay for and you can't expect good clamps with a $65 full hose kit.

Overall though, I would definitely buy this kit again.

 

[Drop Top Road Trip]

Hey! Thanks Everybody! I really didn't think I'd get much response since I couldn't find any posts concerning this kit using the search function. This was exactly what I was hoping to hear. Now when another owner does a search here they'll probably find this. I'll try to shoot a video of the installation and post about it when I get a chance to do it.

 

[jinscho]

Hey! Thanks Everybody! I really didn't think I'd get much response since I couldn't find any posts concerning this kit using the search function. This was exactly what I was hoping to hear. Now when another owner does a search here they'll probably find this. I'll try to shoot a video of the installation and post about it when I get a chance to do it.

I'm just curious as to what clamps other users have put on. Since my build still isn't in service, I've been looking to different options but haven't pulled the trigger yet. Leaning towards t-bolts, but my wallet is hopeful there's a cheaper route

 

[chrysler kid]

I've used 3 different sets. 2 were gplus and 1 was unbranded 4ply. Ive also used 5 sets on different Honda's. All of them have been great on every vehicle

Pro-tip. Cut your old heater hoses off of the heater core. Dont bother to try to remove them as you could damage the heater core piping. Use a good box cutter and slice the old heater hoses down the center long ways for results.

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[EVLGSX]

I'm just curious as to what clamps other users have put on. Since my build still isn't in service, I've been looking to different options but haven't pulled the trigger yet. Leaning towards t-bolts, but my wallet is hopeful there's a cheaper route

I like the OEM clamps best. I always save the small ones whenever I get them from wherever........for the mains I just ordered 4 evo8 clamps from JNZ. They are black and are 100% better than the dreaded worm gear clamps.

 

[Mello]

I also prefer the OEM clamp over any worm clamp. They are constant tension clamps & won't cut, pull & pinch the hose when tightening like the worm clamps.

 

[PlanZero]

But with confidence. The eBay aluminum radiators are awesome too.

Up until 2 weeks ago I would wholeheartedly agree. I would recommend CX racing as the best "eBay rad" out of the 4 I have. The rest are pretty much identical without markings. I got a no name one for my Jeep XJ to replace the wimpy stocker and after 2 years it suddenly started to fail. Luckily I caught it in time. My rad was completely empty and a nice coolant puddle on my garage floor. Upon further investigation it appears as if the seams on the end tanks just gave up, they're seeping coolant everywhere. I was surprised at the sudden rapid failure and now I'm super paranoid about the rad in my Tsi. Even though I'm not a big fan of mishimoto products I plan on dropping one in next year. They're only $213 shipped from multiple sellers and at this point I think it will give me piece of mind.

Just a heads up to keep an eye on those eBay rads! As with any "knockoffs" some are good some are bad!

 

[chrysler kid]

I disagree with the use of any aluminum end tanked radiator in the engine bay of a DSM. The aluminum radiates heat into the bay and increases under hood temperatures. The upper aluminum tank gets heat soaked and you just end up with tons of heat just locked in under the hood between the turbo and the radiator. Even the Mishimoto radiator fitment is crap. Basically I think it's a waste of cash. Better off using thermal blankets on your exhaust housing and manifold

You really want a more efficient cooling system just change the temperature settings of your OEM fans

 

[brian9397gsx]

As far as clamps go the constant tension clamps are the way to go especially on stock plastic radiators. Then it's just worm gear clamps I'd never use t bolt clamps they suck. AMS had a great article on their site comparing t-bolts to worm gear. I've always used worm gear clamps on intercooler piping without any issues. But constant tension clamps is where it's at just very expensive.

 

[pauleyman]

Back from the dead. Lots of talk about constant tension clamps but what brand do you guys prefer other than OEM? I just got some of these same G plus hoses and the OEM clamps don't fit the smaller hoses. I could just order a generic kit but I was hoping for something a little more specific and I'll order a bunch of the sizes I need.

 

[19Eclipse90]

I think this is the last place I saw someone mention them, though it looks like only the radiator hoses here: Paul’s 1993 GSX

 

[pauleyman]

Oh those are too far out there. Don't suppose you have any extra oem clamps? These g plus hoses are a little bigger than the throttle body coolant lines etc. I need to measure I suppose.

 

[19Eclipse90]

Assuming this is what you’re after. And I’m sure I’ve probably got a few more hanging around different places.

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[Stapl3]

I am having a hard time finding a kit for a 1g in black that doesn't take three weeks to arrive from China. It's also about double the price of a 2g kit. Is the upper radiator hose the only difference between 1g and 2g?

 

[CrackedDSM]

I am having a hard time finding a kit for a 1g in black that doesn't take three weeks to arrive from China. It's also about double the price of a 2g kit. Is the upper radiator hose the only difference between 1g and 2g?

Jesus, you ain’t lying. Holy sheeeeit.

 

[Stapl3]

So I have a blue 1g kit here that came with a car I bought. I purchased a 2g black kit and have compared all the hoses. They are all the same, I can't quiet eyeball if the heater core hoses are different but if so it's not by much at all.

As for the radiator hoses, the upper is obviously different. I bought a upper radiator hose from rockauto for like 5 bucks.

The lower hose looks different between the kits but I don't really understand why. To trial and error would require me cutting them down and I'm not playing that game.

Which brings me to the annoyance of this whole thing. The upper and lower hoses have to be cut down, even the one from rockauto requires cutting down. I'm confident that one will fit after I cut it down as I googled the part number on it to confirm it's for a 1g dsm, but man it is not even the similar shape to OEM. Between that and the cutting, the whole situation is bizarre and feels questionable. How could manufacturers fumble it so bad?

 

[CrackedDSM]

So I have a blue 1g kit here that came with a car I bought. I purchased a 2g black kit and have compared all the hoses. They are all the same, I can't quiet eyeball if the heater core hoses are different but if so it's not by much at all.

As for the radiator hoses, the upper is obviously different. I bought a upper radiator hose from rockauto for like 5 bucks.

The lower hose looks different between the kits but I don't really understand why. To trial and error would require me cutting them down and I'm not playing that game.

Which brings me to the annoyance of this whole thing. The upper and lower hoses have to be cut down, even the one from rockauto requires cutting down. I'm confident that one will fit after I cut it down as I googled the part number on it to confirm it's for a 1g dsm, but man it is not even the similar shape to OEM. Between that and the cutting, the whole situation is bizarre and feels questionable. How could manufacturers fumble it so bad?

Because none of them are American companies or made here where the cars actually are. They're sent rough measurements and a 10 year old in a chinese foundry just stamps them out. Believe it or not, I don't actually mean any of this with political intentions, it's 150% fact. There is zero QA or product refinement with Chinese/Ebay goods.

 

[Stapl3]

Because none of them are American companies or made here where the cars actually are. They're sent rough measurements and a 10 year old in a chinese foundry just stamps them out. Believe it or not, I don't actually mean any of this with political intentions, it's 150% fact. There is zero QA or product refinement with Chinese/Ebay goods.

No, they're sent the physical part and are told 'make this'. I've been in that industry for 2 decades. I've seen it ALL. What happened is they bought the OEM part and physically sent it to Asia and said make this the same; along with a never ending flow of the same situation on an endless amount of parts. Ever been in an autoparts store or shopped on something like rockauto? We crow over Asian knock offs of parts yet here are entire stores we frequent that are entirely filled with Asian knock off parts of OEM and somehow that is fine in our heads. Hell, we have a thread on rockauto coupon codes and people have their magnets on their toolboxes. What a strange pride of a brand. They didn't engineer or make shit, they blatantly copied OEM stuff.

So back to the radiator hoses, they can't get a radiator hose correct? What happened is someone messed up along the way and there was no checks or balances between then and now. If I sent a manufacturer a OEM radiator hose and said make this and it came back 2" longer on each end, there's two options. I'd either say this is wrong fix it meaning I knew of the problem and cared [L0L], or be completely incompetent as all I do is send them OEM shit to make that I know nothing about and blindly say yeah great I'll take them. Then on the back end, which is never seen or usually simply ignored, people will still buy it and happily cut them down as you see ITT. Why? Because our options are hoses the wrong size vs OEM which is probably unavailable or 5x the price if so. End of the day it works, we're happy after the struggle and the company poorly copied the part and moved them and made coin. And ultimately the 500pcs made or whatever are sold and never made again and that's that with that.

 

[CrackedDSM]

No, they're sent the physical part and are told 'make this'. I've been in that industry for 2 decades. I've seen it ALL. What happened is they bought the OEM part and physically sent it to Asia and said make this the same; along with a never ending flow of the same. Ever been in an autoparts store or shopped on something like rockauto? We crow over Asian knock offs of parts yet here are entire stores we frequent that are entirely filled with Asian knock off parts of OEM and somehow that is fine in our heads. Hell, we have a thread on rockauto coupon codes and people have their magnets on their toolboxes. What a strange pride of a brand. They didn't engineer or make shit, they blatantly copied OEM stuff.

So back to the radiator hoses, they can't get a radiator hose correct? What happened is someone messed up along the way and there was no checks or balances between then and now. If I sent a manufacturer a OEM radiator hose and said make this and it came back 2" longer on each end, there's two options. I'd either say this is wrong fix it meaning I knew of the problem and cared [l0l], or be completely incompetent as all I do is send them OEM shit to make that I know nothing about and blindly say yeah great I'll take them. Then on the back end, which is never seen or usually simply ignored, people will still buy it and happily cut them down as you see ITT. Why? Because our options are hoses the wrong size vs OEM which is probably unavailable or 5x the price if so. End of the day it works, we're happy after the struggle and the company poorly copied the part and moved them and made coin.

Because none of them are American companies or made here where the cars actually are. They're sent rough measurements and a 10 year old in a chinese foundry just stamps them out. Believe it or not, I don't actually mean any of this with political intentions, it's 150% fact. There is zero QA or product refinement with Chinese/Ebay goods.

Pretty much what I said at the end still applies, even if they are sent an OEM unit in. Zero to bare bones QA by people who don't really care.


Also: you don't have to explain to me how parts stores and rockauto specifically are full of chinese knockoffs and shit. I'm painfully aware of that. Only reason I don't order straight from china is most of the time I just simply can't, or don't want to, wait.

When I mentioned the America thing what I meant was this: You don't have any companies here in the USA who make their stuff here. Or even companies like ExtremePSI, JNZTuning, or anyone that's actually laid eyes on a DSM part and worked on a DSM don't contract chinese companies to make any radiator hoses. If they did, the QA would be way better and be forced to improve. Forced Performance uses chinese foundries for their hotsides and compressor housings, but compare their 68HTA compressor housing to a run of the mill 16G knockoff. Much better QA and refinement.

 

[Stapl3]

Pretty much what I said at the end still applies, even if they are sent an OEM unit in. Zero to bare bones QA by people who don't really care.


Also: you don't have to explain to me how parts stores and rockauto specifically are full of chinese knockoffs and shit. I'm painfully aware of that. Only reason I don't order straight from china is most of the time I just simply can't, or don't want to, wait.

When I mentioned the America thing what I meant was this: You don't have any companies here in the USA who make their stuff here. Or even companies like ExtremePSI, JNZTuning, or anyone that's actually laid eyes on a DSM part and worked on a DSM don't contract chinese companies to make any radiator hoses. If they did, the QA would be way better and be forced to improve. Forced Performance uses chinese foundries for their hotsides and compressor housings, but compare their 68HTA compressor housing to a run of the mill 16G knockoff. Much better QA and refinement.

The wedge of the discussion here is quality control. iPhones are made in China and they're amazing. On the flipside you can have hilarious garbage off Wish. Of course FP would make their housings and manifolds overseas, you think a tariff will make him start a foundry in America? Of course not. The end price would ridiculous and that's not the main goal. It's all boils down to quality control.

That said, have you ever been in a made in America store? It's like the entrance of the Cracker Barrel before you enter the restaurant part.

 

[CrackedDSM]

The wedge of the discussion here is quality control. iPhones are made in China and they're amazing. On the flipside you can have hilarious garbage off Wish. FP sells a counterfeit part of mine that I called and talked to Robert about for quite some time. Of course they would make their housings and manifolds overseas, you think a tariff will make him start a foundry in America? Of course not. The end price would ridiculous and that's not the main goal. It's all boils down to quality control.

That said, have you ever been in a made in America store? It's like the entrance of the Cracker Barrel before you enter the restaurant part.

Yeah that's what I'm trying to express. QA is everything. Most businesses especially on eBay or Amazon that sell DSM parts couldn't give any less of a f**k about the end product.


And TBH I didn't even know there WAS any made in america stores. I'd assume it would be like nothing but crude oil and raw/unprocessed iron ore. Maybe some meth or moonshine too.