GSR CRX VS GSt

[noz]

Originally posted by Nighthawk01
that sohc hatch weights in at 2400 pounds stock, only 300 pounds less then our fwd turbo cars,, and consitering our cars stock are pushing 190+hp, compared to 125 for the si, and over 200 pounds of tq, which is double that (103) of an si,, nd all at the same rpm range (5000)
i dont see why he wouldnt have a chance,, my buddy has an si hatch, im going to race him, he has an exsaust,,intake ect. im pretty much stock,, and i know how to drive,, but im pretty sure i will take him.

a 91 crx si weighs 2174, a 99 gst weighs 3050.
thats a 846lbs difference.
a 91 civic si hb weighs 2291
thats still a 759lbs difference.

a 91 eclipse gs turbo weighs 2745
thats still a 454bs difference from a 91 civic hb si
no way their car is only 300lbs lighter.

but i do wish the 2g dsm weighs little as the 1g dsm.
i do know that if i do some simple mods ill probably tear up the crx and civic hb si i raced.

as long as you think ur gst can hit low 14's with your mods, im pretty sure you'll be even with the crx swap.
only reason i thought you would get rape is that with simple mods im thinking ur running mids to high 14's and that the crx can do high 13's to low 14s.

 

[StarDiamond]

Simple mods meaning like ACT clutch intake apexi n1 exhaust bov and mbc nothing like bigger turbo. IDK i think the traction thing is going to be theissue more then anything also him hitting V-TEC. Thanks for all your post. Jason

 

[Nighthawk01]

Originally posted by noz
a 91 crx si weighs 2174, a 99 gst weighs 3050.
thats a 846lbs difference.
a 91 civic si hb weighs 2291
thats still a 759lbs difference.

a 91 eclipse gs turbo weighs 2745
thats still a 454bs difference from a 91 civic hb si
no way their car is only 300lbs lighter.

but i do wish the 2g dsm weighs little as the 1g dsm.
i do know that if i do some simple mods ill probably tear up the crx and civic hb si i raced.

as long as you think ur gst can hit low 14's with your mods, im pretty sure you'll be even with the crx swap.
only reason i thought you would get rape is that with simple mods im thinking ur running mids to high 14's and that the crx can do high 13's to low 14s.

91 civic hatch si weights 2400 pounds,, (dont argue my buddie has one and it's been on the scale) thats a little over 300 pounds less then a 91 talon tsi fwd...

 

[sarge]

dang, when all i had on my car was KN cone, exhaust, and dp, all i worried about was other dsm's, 99+ mustangs, and camaros


never worried about any non turbocharged 4 bangers

remember, these cars are having to be gutted and have motor swaps to keep up with your stock car, so do yourself a favor and atleast do the basic mods to your car

 

[enid84]

All i know is that my budy last year did 13.9 with his crx. He had b16a with intake, heders, exhaust. And he had pretty wide tires but they were street radials. Any good driver should do mid 13's with gsr swap in them. So it all depends on the drivers but still i think on high end crx should pull on you.

 

[98spydert]

My buddy did this, my buddy has that, some guy ran that....

How's this: I have a 90 CRX HF w/ B16A2, B18C5 head, and Crower stage 1 cams. Puts down like 240 or somewhere around those lines with all supporting mods. About the same HP as my DSM. As it stands it will completly devower and put to shame my modded 98 Spyder GS-T(T-25). The spyder wieghs like 3300 pounds and the CRX wieghed in just over 2000 with full interior and that's basicly the determining factor. It's run high 12s on drag radials so if the guy can drive and has around the same hp and wieght then I wouldn't even bother. But because he just swapped it, maybe he's not used to driving it yet and you might stand a better chance.

Hope this helps to give you an idea of what you're up against.

 

[Nighthawk01]

Originally posted by 98spydert
My buddy did this, my buddy has that, some guy ran that....

How's this: I have a 90 CRX HF w/ B16A2, B18C5 head, and Crower stage 1 cams. Puts down like 240 or somewhere around those lines with all supporting mods. About the same HP as my DSM. As it stands it will completly devower and put to shame my modded 98 Spyder GS-T(T-25). The spyder wieghs like 3300 pounds and the CRX wieghed in just over 2000 with full interior and that's basicly the determining factor. It's run high 12s on drag radials so if the guy can drive and has around the same hp and wieght then I wouldn't even bother. But because he just swapped it, maybe he's not used to driving it yet and you might stand a better chance.

Hope this helps to give you an idea of what you're up against.

Bet that thing hauls on the street!
nice...

 

[sarge]

ok, so your friend with the crx has what amounts to a fast beer can, yippee

 

[fireredGST]

Originally posted by 98spydert
My buddy did this, my buddy has that, some guy ran that....

How's this: I have a 90 CRX HF w/ B16A2, B18C5 head, and Crower stage 1 cams. Puts down like 240 or somewhere around those lines with all supporting mods. About the same HP as my DSM. As it stands it will completly devower and put to shame my modded 98 Spyder GS-T(T-25). The spyder wieghs like 3300 pounds and the CRX wieghed in just over 2000 with full interior and that's basicly the determining factor. It's run high 12s on drag radials so if the guy can drive and has around the same hp and wieght then I wouldn't even bother. But because he just swapped it, maybe he's not used to driving it yet and you might stand a better chance.

Hope this helps to give you an idea of what you're up against.

your spyder is slow as #### because you still have the stock T25, start upgrading the turbo and start waving bye to the CRX....Anyway you put it you might beat the GST with your CRX, but in the end you are driving a cheap ass honda CRX with girls laughing at you on every corner....

 

[98spydert]

Well for one, the only time I drove that car on the street was when I was in high school because I didn't have any money. Two, the only reason my spyder isn't modded is because I'm a FAST Marine who's never in the same part of the world for more than a ####in month so I never even see the car, let alone work on it. Three, I'm willing to bet that 12 second piece is faster than your GS-T will ever be so you don't have much room to talk.

 

[Larry L]

Originally posted by fireredGST
your spyder is slow as #### because you still have the stock T25, start upgrading the turbo and start waving bye to the CRX....Anyway you put it you might beat the GST with your CRX, but in the end you are driving a cheap ass honda CRX with girls laughing at you on every corner....

Dude check my mod list..I have a heavily modified Spyder and my best time was a 14.1 (unofficial) The weight is the main issue. 3300lbs to 2200lbs is night and day.

 

[fireredGST]

Originally posted by 98spydert
Well for one, the only time I drove that car on the street was when I was in high school because I didn't have any money. Two, the only reason my spyder isn't modded is because I'm a FAST Marine who's never in the same part of the world for more than a ####in month so I never even see the car, let alone work on it. Three, I'm willing to bet that 12 second piece is faster than your GS-T will ever be so you don't have much room to talk.

HAHA ...faster than I will ever be ? im shooting for elevens, with just minor mods im already into the low 14s. Dropping two seconds more isn't a big deal. i rather have a better looking car than a piece of shit lunchbox CRX. your a marine...who gives a shit

 

[98spydert]

Originally posted by fireredGST
HAHA ...faster than I will ever be ? im shooting for elevens, with just minor mods im already into the low 14s. Dropping two seconds more isn't a big deal. i rather have a better looking car than a piece of shit lunchbox CRX. your a marine...who gives a shit

So if I said I was shooting for 9's, would that put me ahead of you? The engine in that CRX cost more than your piece 95. get a life kid.

 

[jagwired]

damn people cut the hostilities....


we've got one of those crx's with a gsr engine swap in my town and i raced him a couple weeks ago. The "thing"(its a horrible lime green color) beat me by about half a length to 85. which is cool, cuz my car's pretty slow since i'm running heavy ass 19's and i only have very minor mods, so you guys with some lighter wheels and a few more mods should have no problem

 

[heavyD]

Originally posted by Larry L
Dude check my mod list..I have a heavily modified Spyder and my best time was a 14.1 (unofficial) The weight is the main issue. 3300lbs to 2200lbs is night and day.

I'm too lazy to look it up right now but how much more on average does a GST Spyder than a regular GST? I'm sure that you are a good driver but I looked at your mods and am surprised you can't break 14 sec.

 

[heavyD]

OOOPS. I forgot to mention the word "weigh" in my first sentence. I am still a bit blurry from last night.

 

[JiveMasterT]

i raced a crx in my 1997 AWD chevy astro van. the crx looked like it had some mods to it, possibly a different motor. it has nos stickers on it, but you know them honda boys! but he didnt have traction and i did cause im double his weight and i had AWD. the only mod my astro van has is an intake and its about 190HP with 270lbs of torque. i beat him by about a car. the point im tring to make here is that as long as you get traction you will be fine. the vtec motor flaw is that it isnt fast until you get up high in the rpm range, and by then you will be pulling on it.

race the guy, and in the mean time ill try to find the kid with the crx and ask him what hes got doen to it. shouldnt be too hard, everyone knows everyone with a car around here.

oh and when you race the crx, take off quickly but dont launch or you will break your tires free. and shift around 6k cause over that your boost drops slightly and you are just beating your motor. you should take him. remember 3rd gear is your power gear. as long as you dont miss shifts i think you should take this guy. i do think you should go get a new intake though cause its like 60 bucks and it might just give you the edge you need.

 

[98spydert]

Yeah, that sounds like a good idea. If you play it safe and launch pretty easily with little risk of breaking loose, you can focus on either catching up and/or pulling away where you're real power is; mid to high rpms in full boost. Good luck!

 

[Insearchofatsi]

firedgst u need to f@ckin calm down bro. WHy do you think ur opinion is the only one that matters? So what u think CRXs are uglys, i dont. I had a 91 crx with a b16 turboed WITH a body kit. I thought it looked beautiful and i can guarentee u id smoke ur gst. DSMs are great cars and everyone has their opinions but why do u think ur the greatest? because u beat a sohc crx. As for the gsr, that guy will beat u if hes a good driver. My CRX with a b16 with exahust, intake, and headers ran a 14.9 and that was before ilearned how todrive. My friend puts down high 12's with the gsr in the crx but has alot of mods. Bottomline, if u are a good driver and he isnt u won.

 

[am00re34]

i think i can put an end to this right now. my buddy has a 93 hatch w/ a gsr. His mods include 2 1/2 in exhaust(no cat), cold air intake, JDM header, Clutch and flywheel, and a grounding kit on street radials. He also has throttle activeted 50shot of nitrous.

Ok... I raced him from a stop w/ my 90 tsi w/ 3in exhaust(cat back), and a K&N filter. And even w/ his nitrous i beat him by a half to a whole car. They arn't as fast as they think they are. the only thing i really have that you dont is AWD(which helps!)

 

[fireredGST]

Originally posted by Insearchofatsi
firedgst u need to f@ckin calm down bro. WHy do you think ur opinion is the only one that matters? So what u think CRXs are uglys, i dont. I had a 91 crx with a b16 turboed WITH a body kit. I thought it looked beautiful and i can guarentee u id smoke ur gst. DSMs are great cars and everyone has their opinions but why do u think ur the greatest? because u beat a sohc crx. As for the gsr, that guy will beat u if hes a good driver. My CRX with a b16 with exahust, intake, and headers ran a 14.9 and that was before ilearned how todrive. My friend puts down high 12's with the gsr in the crx but has alot of mods. Bottomline, if u are a good driver and he isnt u won.

As of a week ago I ran a 13.9 with a couple of mods , your 14.9 isn't going to get you even close to me, all you will see is my preety tail-lights bi***.


I walked a SOHC CRX with a 118hp Ford Probe SE....Badly too.....


CRX's look like shit, its not my opnion, everyone thinks so, go drive your queer mobile lunchbox into a tree .....




I have seen Turbo B16 CRX's get smoked by nearly bone stock LS1's. Seen my boy with his Probe GT with nitrous that runs 13.7 destroy a B16 CRX so bad he could barely see him in his rear view ( thier was a video of it on the web somewhere).

 

[Insearchofatsi]

My 14.9 was the first time I ever went to a track and the first time racing on my stage 3 clutch. Im sure if i ran with the same mods the next timeiwent down i woulda been way way lower. I dont have my car right now but if i did i would drive down to wherevfer u live, drag ur ass outta of ur house and make u race me and get it on video. I ran a 11.9 on only 10psi with stock internals. Hows that for a 1.6? Everyone doesnt hate CRX's they r a good quality car. They can handle good, light, and a good platform for easy performance. Can someone on this board kick this ### ass guy out because every post i read of his makes me madder and madder. LS1's are pretety quick cars I dont know who the #### you think you are bashing everyones comments.

And dropping two seconds in the 1/4 is a big deal you queer.

 

[jagwired]

seriously guys give your egos a rest..your supposed to be talkin bout if a nearly stock 99 gst can stay with a nearly stock crx with a gsr engine swap, take your shit talk elsewhere this isnt about you

 

[fireredGST]

Originally posted by Insearchofatsi
My 14.9 was the first time I ever went to a track and the first time racing on my stage 3 clutch. Im sure if i ran with the same mods the next timeiwent down i woulda been way way lower. I dont have my car right now but if i did i would drive down to wherevfer u live, drag ur ass outta of ur house and make u race me and get it on video. I ran a 11.9 on only 10psi with stock internals. Hows that for a 1.6? Everyone doesnt hate CRX's they r a good quality car. They can handle good, light, and a good platform for easy performance. Can someone on this board kick this ### ass guy out because every post i read of his makes me madder and madder. LS1's are pretety quick cars I dont know who the #### you think you are bashing everyones comments.

And dropping two seconds in the 1/4 is a big deal you queer.

Drag me out of my house bi*** ? ayo you know who you are talking too ? bi*** ....come to north jersey from hick pennyslyvania and me and my boys will rob your ass for fun.....You little white boy bi*** dont get me started , ill ####ing drag your ###et ass iout of your car and stick your ###et ass all ####ed up in my trunk then drive around for a awhile.....All in the meantime ill be ####ing your girlfriend in the ass while your stuck in there like a bi***.....GET A REAL CAR , CRX's are queer cars, made espcially for you ####.....don't be all pissed at me cause I got a newer, faster, much better looking car, hate yourself for not having to dough to buy one bi***.......


Little internet dork , get off your computer and get a life son......im done with you.....

 

[98spydert]

Originally posted by jagwired
seriously guys give your egos a rest..your supposed to be talkin bout if a nearly stock 99 gst can stay with a nearly stock crx with a gsr engine swap, take your shit talk elsewhere this isnt about you

I answered it a long time ago.

Mods, lock this thread or ban that kid please.

Originally posted by fireredGST
Little internet dork , get off your computer and get a life son......

Ironic, don't you think?