greengoblin's AWD Project

[greengoblin]

I will have more baffles on Dec.7th. I should have a group buy ad up in the next few days!

 

[snowborder714]

Keep in mind Freelancers aren't to be talking about their products in the forum. If you are interested in purchasing something from a Freelancer, check out their area in the classifieds section and/or send them a PM. We'd like to keep all the transactional stuff out of the forum so we can focus on this amazing machine Kevin's building!!

What are the rules in regards to "flat bottoming" the rear? Is it only legal up until the crossmember? I see you're doing much less then that, and not even sure it would play well with a diffuser.

 

[greengoblin]

Getting ready to build the last flat section for the rear. Well it is sort of flat. There is actually a large bow to the center section due to the rear crossmember. I should do the lay up pretty soon. This will really clean up things.

Still need to install dzus buttons but I'm 90% done with the under pan. There is a good chance a few cut a few slits/holes will be cut into it when the diffuser is installed. Still need to think a bit more on that.

 

[greengoblin]

What are the rules in regards to "flat bottoming" the rear? Is it only legal up until the crossmember? I see you're doing much less then that, and not even sure it would play well with a diffuser.

They vary. I can remove the bottom super easy if I can't use it somewhere. I have a second cover that goes on the inside that was for the old cell. Also since the tire well is cut out for a cell I figured why not build it. There is no way I would try to weld a new/used OEM spare tire well back in.

 

[mitsumikey]

I am curious of one thing. Are you stitch welding as opposed to seam welding because seam welding is not allowed in the race regulations? I assume your getting most of the rigidity and benefits of seam welding, while remaining race legal? What are you doing with the seams when the body work is finished? Amazing work man. I am doing the same when my shell is bare. Its already half torn down.

 

[turbotom]

So your building this something like this then?:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-GXjwlHATc&list=FLArNLhkYRxfp1CDhQM66lSQ]650 HP Mitsubishi Eclipse Gsx Hill Climb Rally Car - 2012 Czech Champion - YouTube[/ame]

 

[crash89]

Hey man, your avatar shows this car finished and painted! What gives, wheres our update?!?!?!

 

[snowborder714]

Check this post in regards to that picture
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/153111288-post118.html

 

[crash89]

How did I miss that?!?!

 

[greengoblin]

Hey while back I let Shearer manifold slip through my hands. Good thing that I did because this one comes with a downpipe,02 housing and dump tube all vband flyness.

What proper merge collector should look like.

Hope everyone has a great day like I did! :Santa

 

[snowborder714]

Sweet pickup!!!

 

[eDeclpse92]

Awesome build man! Keep up the good work!

 

[greengoblin]

Sweet pickup!!!

Thanks. This is the route you need to go with your setup Brian.

 

[snowborder714]

Ya, ya

I'm still up in the air with it, mainly as my funding has gone to replace my engine. So for now I'm just doing an FP manifold on the same small 16g I've been running since I got the car. I've got a good bit of time until I save up the money to upgrade the turbo, so I'll be debating between this and twin scroll (turbo choice might decide this for me though), as well as see if anything new comes into the market in the near future.

 

[greengoblin]

Ya, ya

I'm still up in the air with it, mainly as my funding has gone to replace my engine. So for now I'm just doing an FP manifold on the same small 16g I've been running since I got the car. I've got a good bit of time until I save up the money to upgrade the turbo, so I'll be debating between this and twin scroll (turbo choice might decide this for me though), as well as see if anything new comes into the market in the near future.

Looks like tread stone is going to make a vband housing for the EFR turbos. That would be awesome. I also really like the tubing ID on this manifold. It is going to really help on spool .

 

[907dsm]

Manifold and down pipe looks amazing, you get what you for sure. I can't wait for tax return.

 

[snowborder714]

Looks like tread stone is going to make a vband housing for the EFR turbos. That would be awesome. I also really like the tubing ID on this manifold. It is going to really help on spool .

I saw the video from them. Definitely looks like it'll be an awesome setup!

Is it 1.25" piping? And is it a Shearer unit? I wasn't quite sure from your post.

 

[hurricanecris24]

Been interested on how vband manifold/turbos perform on a dsm, can't wait to see results. Also didn't catch what turbo you'll be running and the size of the turbine housing.

 

[greengoblin]

I saw the video from them. Definitely looks like it'll be an awesome setup!

Is it 1.25" piping? And is it a Shearer unit? I wasn't quite sure from your post.

Yes it is the Shearer small runner manifold and hot parts. 1.25" tubing.

 

[greengoblin]

Been interested on how vband manifold/turbos perform on a dsm, can't wait to see results. Also didn't catch what turbo you'll be running and the size of the turbine housing.

Turbo is still to be decided. Either an FP unit or if Treadstone actually produces their new housing maybe an Brog Warner EFR turbo. Either unit will be something that will put the car around 600 whp.

Here a link to the housing I'm talking about.

News

 

[Atuca]

Any particular reason you chose the vband over a divided T4/twin scroll configuration?

 

[greengoblin]

Any particular reason you chose the vband over a divided T4/twin scroll configuration?

Yes
It's lighter.much lighter.
It much easier to work on.
Packaging of the system is smaller and will make further change in aero work easier to do later if I so choose to.
The system is over all simpler.
It's overall cheaper too.
I looked at all the twin scroll setup that are currently made for our car and did not like any of them. This meant a one off unit was going to have to be built. Again more time and money
The gains of twin scroll setup are marginal once all these thing are weighted in.

Kevin

 

[ed1380]

Ive thought that a twin scroll hx35 would be perfect for road course. It flows 60lb/min and you get 30psi before 4k

 

[snowborder714]

That's always been my thought and plan as well.

I do agree with Kevin though that I'm not a big fan of the current available twin scroll manifolds. I've toyed with the idea of having someone create me a single gated twin scroll manifold (keeping the tube to the gate divided all the way), as I think recirculating both gates would be a plumbing nightmare in our engine bays. Kevin's been trying to talk me out of it since before the Shootout though

 

[ed1380]

That's always been my thought and plan as well.

I do agree with Kevin though that I'm not a big fan of the current available twin scroll manifolds. I've toyed with the idea of having someone create me a single gated twin scroll manifold (keeping the tube to the gate divided all the way), as I think recirculating both gates would be a plumbing nightmare in our engine bays. Kevin's been trying to talk me out of it since before the Shootout though

I'd love a manifold like mr peepers.