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[vinny5486]

Do not purchase a GODSPEED front mount intercooler kit from anywhere. I tried to save some money and bought this one. Two of the parts in this kit are bad from the manufacturer which is FATBOY. The jpipe is bad because they take a pipe that is to big and weld it to the flange that bolts to onto your turbo. Due to the pipe and the weld there is no room for your bolts to bolt on strait to the flange. The weld and pipe is in the way. I even tried using allen head bolt that have a very small head and there's still no room. you have to grind weld off of it and that is risky because you lose integrity of the part. I notified them of the problem and they sent me another part and it was just as bad as first one. All they would have to do is use a smaller pipe at the flange and expand it at the bend to the larger size. But they're to stupid to do it. The problem with the other part is the bov pipe. they welded the flange in the wrong place. You can take the part they sent you and compare it to the one that have in their picture and it's not in the same place. Save some money and get a water to air kit from frozenboost.com it's way more effective and parts are good.

 

[bduran1220]

I toke a risk last Friday and went and purchased a Godspeed Project 16g turbo & jpipe kit Ive heard both good and bad stuff of GSP I really don't want high HP I only did it because my ol stock t25 is finally gonna kick the bucket due to oil leak at stock boost no mods just a short ram air intake and filter from injen

I brought the both at this site GodSpeed Project - Intercooler, Turbo Kits, Turbo Manifold, Body Kit
Yes it did come fatboy it said so on my PayPal account but not from eBay I called them directly they sent a invoice to my email and i paid. Shipping was fast USP is suppose to drop them off today 8/7/2012
Hopefully I don't get a lemon ill post pic of the items and hardware as soon as USP get here I wanna see what the pros say

 

[garrettjames70]

I toke a risk last Friday and went and purchased a Godspeed Project 16g turbo & jpipe kit Ive heard both good and bad stuff of GSP I really don't want high HP I only did it because my ol stock t25 is finally gonna kick the bucket due to oil leak at stock boost no mods just a short ram air intake and filter from injen

I brought the both at this site GodSpeed Project - Intercooler, Turbo Kits, Turbo Manifold, Body Kit
Yes it did come fatboy it said so on my PayPal account but not from eBay I called them directly they sent a invoice to my email and i paid. Shipping was fast USP is suppose to drop them off today 8/7/2012
Hopefully I don't get a lemon ill post pic of the items and hardware as soon as USP get here I wanna see what the pros say

Everything should be fine, i have been doing alot of side work on DSM's and have installed those setup's and there fine. Take you time with the install, don't force things together and if you don't know...stop and ask questions. The j-pipe may not fit and may have to be cut and welded...again this is part of tuning. Make sure the j-pipe lays flat on the turbo or you will have boost leak bad. If you get the parts and are having a tough time, shoot me a PM, id be happy to help you through it. Oh one last big point to all this gsp stuff, tune the car to a max of 18psi and life will be good.

 

[LandoAWD]

Good lord; I wish I could block seeing posts from some of you.

Enjoy your paperweight.

 

[bduran1220]

18psi??? What Are u talking about???

 

[chinola69]

Sometimes you just have to use a little common sense. Is all stuff made in chinga CRAP? Absolutly. Will chinese intercooler pipes and exhaust going to ruin you car nope. Just avoid buying parts that need prescion and detail to make ie turbos, AFPR, Bov, suspension.... A little common sense goes along way.

And like garrettjames70 said "if you dont, get yourself some tow hooks, "overnight parts from japan" and a Honda and you'll run tens.

 

[garrettjames70]

18psi??? What Are u talking about???

If you run you boost over 18psi on ebay turbo's they will implode quickley, if you control the boost...which you should...and tune the car to 15psi, it should last a while.

 

[Jon91TSi]

If you run you boost over 18psi on ebay turbo's they will implode quickley, if you control the boost...which you should...and tune the car to 15psi, it should last a while.

Oh, em, gee.... Kids.......

 

[Mike02rt]

If you run you boost over 18psi on ebay turbo's they will implode quickley, if you control the boost...which you should...and tune the car to 15psi, it should last a while.

Psi means nothing and the truth is that a turbocharger purchased from a vendor on ebay will self destruct REGARDLESS of how well you baby it.
Some don't even make it past 500 miles of total use before they blow and take everything else with them.

OP could have easily just taken the money spent and just bought a core. Then made his own "custom" piping. Complaining about crappy fitment from a less than reputable company's kit instead of buying a cheaper kit from a higher quality supporting vendor on here (hint hint: VRSF) was the initial problem in my opinion.

 

[garrettjames70]

Psi means nothing and the truth is that a turbocharger purchased from a vendor on ebay will self destruct REGARDLESS of how well you baby it.
Some don't even make it past 500 miles of total use before they blow and take everything else with them.

OP could have easily just taken the money spent and just bought a core. Then made his own "custom" piping. Complaining about crappy fitment from a less than reputable company's kit instead of buying a cheaper kit from a higher quality supporting vendor on here (hint hint: VRSF) was the initial problem in my opinion.

ok second part of the post makes sense(other than the product plug)....first part, im going to have to disagee,and your opinion of this stuff is based off what????I am building a 92 talon and in the process of buying parts, the car had a solid 6 bolt in it with a godspeed 20g and no other real mods(still had a side mount intercooler),i spent a weekend cleaning things up, checking fitment and putting an apexi neo in the car. The next sat i took the car to a near by track and ran in it in the high 12's with solid 60's. Oh btw i ran the car @ 27psi at the track. I continued to drive the car around town and on the track for the rest of the summer,just pulling the motor last week to start my rebuild. SOOOOOOOO are they 500 mile max turbo's...are they all junk.....NO you are flat out wrong,they are not great high boost parts but for people that cant afford high dollar stuff they are a good low psi alternative.This arguement can go on until the next turn of the century but there is alot of guys who also buy the top of line stuff and blow it up first start.....so what should we all take from this, parts have limits,but bad installs stop all parts.....

 

[turboglenn]

I always laugh at "godspeed" because that was a saying fromfriend to friend before the one would set out to do something that might cost him his life or just ruin it... so godspoeed my friend ... or via con dios just the same

3/4ths' of what's on ebay is trash, an intercooler is easy to make work but doens't mean it works well, i'd never buy a turbo from there though unless a real manuafacturer and was sold used by rivate person not selling 300 morejust like it with same pic no matterwhat they call it

also, when p[eople bi*** about fit, what do you think the saying "customizing" the car came from, if things are meant to botl right on they're usually sold by the company that made the car..like ford motorsports factory upgrades., and with so many different setups on peoples cars, noone can garauntee they're parts are "bolt up", iut may bolt up to something, just not your kit or the next guys... if it wasthat easy instead of filing my disability i'd make and sell "bolt on" intercooler kits and turbo manifolds along with many other parts (downpipes especially) all day and make bank, but i don't want to deal with younger crowds like idid when i had a shop, but this time by phone saying "this didn't fit just right and i'm mad" where i'd have to go and tell them that they should look into a shopo doing itbecause seldome tothings just fit perfectly where they should when anything has been changed on a car (and mosttimes when things haven't been changed)


My best example is this.... if you ask outside the DSM world "what o2 housing are you using???" no one knows what that is because other cars don't have them the way mitsu's do, it's either an internal gated exhaust flange or not, down pipe built to fit that part for their car. IN the buicks are teh only no mitsu car where i can say that you can buy down pipes for 4 bolt or 5 bolt flange turbo exit, but the o2 is in the down pipe, nothing between the DP and turbo, and that's how most are, so the 02 housing is really something mitsubishi specific be it DSM, skgt or EVO, galant (cars with OEM MHI turbos basically) So the people in the other car brands just build the down pipe to met the turbo instead of worrying id the o2 housing is available for the turbo they want to match the down pipe they bought.. DSM's although built by some of the best are also some of hte most begginer tuner cars in the world with so much mis-info becoming standardized practice that it bugs me and i understand why most guys i know in real performance wrold builds hate the typical import scene people (no offense) but i see too much all the time where something doesnt' fit and people write a complaint and all i can think is that my car is so car from stock that nothing would fit from mine to the next guys aside from the tranny engine mounts and manifold to engine (basically stock style stuff)

 

[Mike02rt]

ok second part of the post makes sense(other than the product plug)....first part, im going to have to disagee,and your opinion of this stuff is based off what????I am building a 92 talon and in the process of buying parts, the car had a solid 6 bolt in it with a godspeed 20g and no other real mods(still had a side mount intercooler),i spent a weekend cleaning things up, checking fitment and putting an apexi neo in the car. The next sat i took the car to a near by track and ran in it in the high 12's with solid 60's. Oh btw i ran the car @ 27psi at the track. I continued to drive the car around town and on the track for the rest of the summer,just pulling the motor last week to start my rebuild. SOOOOOOOO are they 500 mile max turbo's...are they all junk.....NO you are flat out wrong,they are not great high boost parts but for people that cant afford high dollar stuff they are a good low psi alternative.This arguement can go on until the next turn of the century but there is alot of guys who also buy the top of line stuff and blow it up first start.....so what should we all take from this, parts have limits,but bad installs stop all parts.....

I typed "some", not all. Don't get so upset because you're a Godspeed fanboy. I'd recommend an MHI Evo 3 16g (used) or an MHI 20g (used) over a brand new Godspeed ANYTIME. You get what you pay for remember you have to stick with what you typed earlier: "godspeed has products that are value priced so you as the consumer you have to understand that you get what you pay for...period "
Here let me fix that for you: "godspeed has products that are sold cheaper because of inferior materials/workmanship and you get a ticking time bomb...period"

 

[bduran1220]

Soooooo UPS finally showed up, I opened it right away (anxiety kills ) I see what other's have said about welding the 2 parts of the J pipe kit together, because 16g pipe is 2.50 then needs some kind 90 degree angle to bolt up to the IC part of the pipe that is a 3.00 but really just needs to buy one more part, no need to weld if u buy a 2.50 to 3.00 silicone 90 degree tube for 25 bucks.....or equivalent

And about the 18 psi thing I have no idea what your trying to say to me there. I haven't touched that at all in my car yet, and I'm not because I'm not ready for that yet
All I wanted was just a replacement turbo so I stop burning oil & water through the exhaust so please explain because I don't get what your trying to say
If your talking about fuel pump AFPR & bigger injectors. I have 2 wallies I'm still looking for evo 8 injectors & I will need a guide on AFPR on which way to go tho

 

[LandoAWD]

I really hope that kid doesn't work on anybody's car that posts here, though I assume they'll find this place after a simple Google search about junk Chinese turbos...

 

[garrettjames70]

I guess no good dead goes unpunished. I think there is a lot of miscommunication in this thread and being that i was only trying to help, I am not going to argue with people over the quality of parts. I agree cheap turbo's dont last, but if installed correct they can get somebody by for some time if kept at low boost. I am not a fanboy of godspeed, I personally ran a mhi tdo6 last year and have a fp red going in right now. I ran the ebay turbo the early part of this summer because it was in the car and i didnt have that bad of luck with it. The bottom line of my post was just to explain you can put any turbo on any car and have it implode within seconds, on the flip side you can run cheap turbo's on low boost and they will hold up if installed correctly. I am not stating opinion i am talking from actual track time and stuff i have done with cars. All that being said, I hope that who ever reads this will get some points I have tried to make.

Soooooo UPS finally showed up, I opened it right away (anxiety kills ) I see what other's have said about welding the 2 parts of the J pipe kit together, because 16g pipe is 2.50 then needs some kind 90 degree angle to bolt up to the IC part of the pipe that is a 3.00 but really just needs to buy one more part, no need to weld if u buy a 2.50 to 3.00 silicone 90 degree tube for 25 bucks.....or equivalent

And about the 18 psi thing I have no idea what your trying to say to me there. I haven't touched that at all in my car yet, and I'm not because I'm not ready for that yet
All I wanted was just a replacement turbo so I stop burning oil & water through the exhaust so please explain because I don't get what your trying to say
If your talking about fuel pump AFPR & bigger injectors. I have 2 wallies I'm still looking for evo 8 injectors & I will need a guide on AFPR on which way to go tho

If you get the silicone coupler it should get you all set, just make sure you are not binding any of the pipes together. The 18psi thing is just how much boost you are alowing your turbo to spool up too. Keeping it lower with a manual boost controler will help to save your turbo until you can get a higher end turbo.

 

[LandoAWD]

We get that point, but recommending a crap part to start increases the chance of the "it could happen" exponentially.

 

[garrettjames70]

We get that point, but recommending a crap part to start increases the chance of the "it could happen" exponentially.

I agree 100%.

 

[dsmotors95]

same with the pacesetter headers 70-1168

 

[lauj2gdsm]

let the leaders show you guys.. stop being a follower.. i also ran a ebay 16g hard for a couple of months just for the heck of it it did not blow in my face at all. evo3 16g are over rated and obviously over priced.

http://youtu.be/P_gF21Vj-wI

First ebay 20g drag passes - YouTube

 

[LandoAWD]

Evo 3 16gs go 11s and you put up a vid of a child-labor 20g that runs a c*nt hair under a 13? [insert Wonka meme]

Sure, that's all the "proof" I need to gamble on a shit part.

LMFAO!

 

[lauj2gdsm]

will if you tired it and fried it. ill understand your argument. My argument is simple i try and it didn't fry. I'm not posting outrages false statements. It was just my experience with the ebay 16g and the out come was satisfying. i would care less if anyone buys this cheap turbo go ahead and spend more Benjamins. And one more thing for you ebay haters i also got a snail ( sumalya ) billet 20g wheel. i will convert the whole ebay setup in the future maybe. But for now let me blow up my 50trim.

Evo 3 16gs go 11s and you put up a vid of a child-labor 20g that runs a c*nt hair under a 13? [insert Wonka meme]

Sure, that's all the "proof" I need to gamble on a shit part.

LMFAO!

haha its funny when you talk about child labor.. you support it all the way. check your shirts, shoes, blankets ect.. ect.. its made in CHINA!!

 

[LandoAWD]

When possible, I buy American/brand name/R&D'd. Try to keep it apples to apples, fella. It's not that there aren't other options, it's that you're too cheap to spring for quality. You went so far as to call a proven turbo, and not a reverse-engineered copy, "overrated". I'd say your understanding is underrated.

Next inane comment?

 

[lauj2gdsm]

my understanding is times are though get your best bang for the buck. after all i was satisfy with my experience with the ebay 16g. like i said i try it and didnt fry it. did you? happy day to you. if your broke go for it. if you rich and got dollars to drop go for it. Not many teens in here can afford what many older guys in here rock. its all on your current position and status of money. I had a genuine mhi evo 3 16g before the ebay 16g! like i said to me and myself only!! evo3 16g=over rated OVER PRICED!!!

 

[T is for TURBO]

evo3 16g are over rated and obviously over priced.

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If times are tough, don't mod your car.

 

[lauj2gdsm]

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If times are tough, don't mod your car.

kind of funny to hear this from a guy who spent hundreds of dollars on a t28 that a ebay 16g will out perform. FAIL.

dont bash on me fellas.. im just getting my thoughts and experience with the turbos.. like i said i have tried both and not even rocking a 16g anymore.. grow up!!

 

[garrettjames70]

I agree with the whole stop bashing thing, man an opinion is one thing,but to be completely rude about stuff is another. Im really curious where this infinate base of knowledge comes from anyway, have all of you guys ran ebay turbo's and blown them up, I really doubt it. Isn't the point of all of this to help promote dsm's and further all of our knowledge.