G60 install, evoX rims, Dyno time!!!

[ed_dogg23]

So I just tought Id share what Ive been doing with the car the last few days. Let me know what you guys think, good or bad.

So the car had a 16G for all of last year and I decided to go bigger when this one decided to start fogging for mosquitos.

The G60 dose not make full boost (30psi) till 46-4700, but this thing smashes!

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The G60 is much bigger!

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Installed.


So to top off the build for the winter I landed a set of evoX rims from a buddy who swaped for some gold rotas!

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Just before the dyno!

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The results from the dyno was 393.82 hp and 376.35 ftlbs. The very unfortunate thing is the compressor surge. But thats what you get from a big copressor housing and a small exhust housing.

One other thing just for some info. I purchased a set of lucas 1250s so I could run e85 and they ran good for a few days of tuning then the dyno runs, then boom, 2 craped out! So hopfully they will do a warranty swap or something.

 

[ed_dogg23]

I just feel that the car has more power to made. I've been dsmlink tuning for a while so i know a few tricks. Post a log so we can see whats going on.
My number is 3-476-0667

So let me clear some thing else up here. The hole compressor surge thing we were bashing about I think was mistaken for somthing else. I got to thinking about it and checked the waste gate actuator rod and to my amazment it was loose! So it seems to me that the door was opening and slaming shut and I thought it was surge.




Cool, thanks.

 

[Burnett03]

So let me clear some thing else up here. The hole compressor surge thing we were bashing about I think was mistaken for somthing else. I got to thinking about it and checked the waste gate actuator rod and to my amazment it was loose! So it seems to me that the door was opening and slaming shut and I thought it was surge.




Cool, thanks.

What you are describing couldn't be confused with compressor surge. It's doubtful the loose rod was the cause of the low dyno numbers since the car created 30psi. Although tightening it should keep it flow blowing open at high boost. But what you have said made no sense. I've never seen one open and slam shut, open, and slam shut.

 

[nick_gsx]

Awesome setup man. The car looks great. I have a 91 GSX with a similar setup I am finishing.

Built motor-- 9.5:1 pistons, bored .20 over, port and polish
balance shaft eliminator
Aeromotive FPR
FFWD Fuel kit-- reworked fuel rail, ss lines, 950 injectors, aeromaotive fuel filter
255 fuel pump
Punishment Racing FMIC
FP Race manifold
G60 Turbo
3 inch GM MAF
DSM Link V3

###### left some stuff off, but you get the idea. I will start tuning hopefully this weekend, can't wait to get her back on the street!! It has been a long and expensive build and cant wait to reap the rewards. When taxes come in I will rebuild tranny and build head, BC 280s
and beefy valvetrain. Again props on your build, your body is much cleaner than mine....mine is kind of rough. Keep up the good work and keep us posted.

 

[jrohner]

What you are describing couldn't be confused with compressor surge. It's doubtful the loose rod was the cause of the low dyno numbers since the car created 30psi. Although tightening it should keep it flow blowing open at high boost. But what you have said made no sense. I've never seen one open and slam shut, open, and slam shut.

It would definitely make it spool up considerably slower though, but that's probably about all it would do.

 

[jrohner]

I've never seen or heard of an evo3 16g car see close to 400whp with stock cams. Nor have I ever seen or heard of an evo3 16g car seeing full boost by 3K in 3rd gear with 272s or fp2s or similar cams that would be needed with such a feat.

Under 3 grand for me in 3rd, 2700 or so in 4th & 5th. My BC272's made absolutely 0 difference in spool RPM. My FMIC hurt it about 2-300 rpms though over the SMIC. The 2G timing maps makes turbos spool up at a way lower rpm, so if you're used to the 1g timing map that probably raises your spoolup by 300 rpms. I raised my timing way up on the low end, and then I didn't make full boost until around 32-3300 - it definitely didn't feel as good.

 

[ed_dogg23]

Awesome setup man. The car looks great. I have a 91 GSX with a similar setup I am finishing.

Built motor-- 9.5:1 pistons, bored .20 over, port and polish
balance shaft eliminator
Aeromotive FPR
FFWD Fuel kit-- reworked fuel rail, ss lines, 950 injectors, aeromaotive fuel filter
255 fuel pump
Punishment Racing FMIC
FP Race manifold
G60 Turbo
3 inch GM MAF
DSM Link V3

###### left some stuff off, but you get the idea. I will start tuning hopefully this weekend, can't wait to get her back on the street!! It has been a long and expensive build and cant wait to reap the rewards. When taxes come in I will rebuild tranny and build head, BC 280s
and beefy valvetrain. Again props on your build, your body is much cleaner than mine....mine is kind of rough. Keep up the good work and keep us posted.

Indeed we are close to the same build. All but that motor dude. WOW that thing is gonna hual the beef for sure! Those cams will be a key thing to have with this turbo as well. My power fell off right at 6k which I blame on stock cams. Please keep us posted on the progress.

I also wonder, r u planning on running pump or e85! The injector duty cycle would be throgh the roof on e85 for sure. my 1250s were in the 80-85%.

Keep us posted bro!

 

[ed_dogg23]

What you are describing couldn't be confused with compressor surge. It's doubtful the loose rod was the cause of the low dyno numbers since the car created 30psi. Although tightening it should keep it flow blowing open at high boost. But what you have said made no sense. I've never seen one open and slam shut, open, and slam shut.

Well I will keep ya posted. 28th will seem like forever for dyno time, that is the big day for sure. I want 400..................

 

[nick_gsx]

I will let you know how everything is working out when I start tuning it. I plan on just running pump and race gas for now, probobly won't mess with the e-85 yet. Im not even sure where you can get that around here. I will probobly be looking into some meth injection to go with the setup though. I am also new to DSM Link how hard was it learning to tune with? Did you try any tuning on pump, how many psi and counts of knock?

 

[Burnett03]

: Those cams will be a key thing to have with this turbo as well. My power fell off right at 6k which I blame on stock cams. .

Keep us posted bro!

Don't be so quick to assume the cams will solve this issue. My 272 cams still dropped power at 6k. The intake manifold is a big factor, once that went on i had power to 7.5k. So don't expect a huge gain with 272 cams.

 

[george1904]

i want those rims!

 

[PIMking]

What is a g60? were do I get one? What is it flanged like?

 

[Burnett03]

What is a g60? were do I get one? What is it flanged like?

It's a very restrictive, internal gated slowboy wanna be 60trim It bolts directly to a mits manifold but has a very restrictive hotside/turbine wheel.

 

[dsm-onster]

Yea. It is a poor combination of wheels. From my experience and many others. The t31 turbine wheel is so restrictive to the 60-1 compressor wheel. And the bolton housing makes things even worse. The bolton turbine housing with the t31 wheel is perfect for the 50-trim. No bigger. It just flows enough to really get the most out of the 50-trim wheel and still gives you the fast spool. The 60-1 needs a t350 wheel. If you really want the t31 wheel, get at least a garrett .63 a/r t3 hotside and a well flowing exhaust manifold.

 

[doesitonall4rs]

Sorry to bring this thread up from a month back, but I have a question for the OP.

Where are you feeding your turbo from? If from the head are you using a restrictor and/or have balance shafts?

Please let me know, I have a car with no balance shafts, and feeding an SBR G60 from the head and the intake is full of oil, but there is no smoke out the tail pipe yet, nor shaft play

 

[808DSM]

Sorry to bring this thread up from a month back, but I have a question for the OP.

uummmm it's not a month back. More like a year. But, I hope the OP gets your message.