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[Hammy]

JJay- Nice PM. Don't insult your intelligence? Then don't be so ignorant. Non-turbos may not have as much potential as it's turbo brethren, but they can be fast. Because a car has 135hp, is no reason to go all show and no go. It's a matter of preference. You could put a kit and 18's on a car or a complete turbo kit for the same price. What's more worth it is up to you. Then you give the excuse of high mileage engines, I don't think it's a good idea to race ANY high mileage vehicle without rebuilding it somewhat to support the modifications, turbo or non. And lastly you bring up that you are referring to "street racing" "stoplight to stoplight" racing....ever heard of illegal?? You obviously do not share the same enjoyment as many of us tuners in performance and speed. Im sorry, but if i'm going to look fast, might as well have atleast a little something to back it up. The whole "looking good" thing doesn't hold up much when you get smoked by a mini-van. That's just my opinion, and you prolly won't agree with it being you're such a "rice" guru. But that's fine, just don't go making excuses.

 

[slowlaserRS]

What have I missed here.

 

[slowlaserRS]

Originally posted by dont need 8
I liked this one quite a bit:

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That is a nice car!

 

[4g63tc]

naaawzzzzz, used it on my n/a honda fer years..100 shot direct port wet set. 200k on the 2.2 stock motor.. no problems..(well once had an intake back fire dayam timing! blew the filter clean off! kinda cool though!thats what i get for showing off!)

no smoking, burnt pistons, or oil consumption sooooo...n/a guys do what ya can, i went turbo for the ease of build up vs. build up of n/a motors. n/a guys just have to work a little harder. Props to you!

as for rice...it's all just a matter of opinon, yours and mine.

 

[xleRateGSX]

Originally posted by Hammy
JJay- Nice PM. Don't insult your intelligence? Then don't be so ignorant. Non-turbos may not have as much potential as it's turbo brethren, but they can be fast. Because a car has 135hp, is no reason to go all show and no go. It's a matter of preference. You could put a kit and 18's on a car or a complete turbo kit for the same price. What's more worth it is up to you. Then you give the excuse of high mileage engines, I don't think it's a good idea to race ANY high mileage vehicle without rebuilding it somewhat to support the modifications, turbo or non. And lastly you bring up that you are referring to "street racing" "stoplight to stoplight" racing....ever heard of illegal?? You obviously do not share the same enjoyment as many of us tuners in performance and speed. Im sorry, but if i'm going to look fast, might as well have atleast a little something to back it up. The whole "looking good" thing doesn't hold up much when you get smoked by a mini-van. That's just my opinion, and you prolly won't agree with it being you're such a "rice" guru. But that's fine, just don't go making excuses.

Street racing is illegal but it is his choice. Are you going to try and lecture us on abortion too? You will soon realize that looking fast and actually being fast are two different scenes. Drag racers have the poorest looking exterior but the most built engine. Show cars have the fanciest exterior and the least built engine. Obviously if you’re in a show car then you’re not trying to beat the minivan next to you. In fact you want the fine ass girl in the passenger seat looking.

 

[JohnWH]

Not sure where you came up with the idea that it HAS TO BE one or the other (show or go). PM me sometime and I can show you quite a few show cars that also have the balls to back them up. and if you're trying to impress a girl in the passenger seat of a minivan..you got problems. pedophile.

 

[xleRateGSX]

Yeah there are those few apples that drop far from the tree...

 

[JJay]

I really don't agree at all with your philosophy on fixing up a 135hp car to be fast. If it was really cheap and easy $500 worth of parts and and a 50 shot of Nitrious every person on this page high mileage 1st or 2nd generation would endorse it and do it. It would be the best BANG FOR THE BUCK and everybody/tuner on here would jump up and say yeah do this mod because it is the most logical/best way to hook up you car for cheap. TRUST ME THIS MOD ON AN OLD ENGINE WILL DESTROY IT, I assure you.

Secondly, it is not illegal to take off fast from a stoplight unless you keep picking up speed past the normal 40mph or 35mph city ordinance stated speed. Everybody does some stop light to stop light racing every once in a while and some people do it a lot.

Third although there may some cars out there that have show and go. 1) I bet most are newer model cars 96 and up, 2) A whole lot of money was put into them that most people on this page could never ever afford, thus making them a complete fantasy. 3) I doubt you would ever see a 150,000 mile 1992 Eclipse Talon non turbo that is showcar beautiful and Nitrious equipped fast. It would be a waste of money and completely ridiculous.

It is apparent that you use the word ignorant quite a bit so........ it must apply to you in your own personal life quite a bit. I will reserve further judgement on anyone about their opinions, but I still feel (IMO) that if Nitrious was THE BEST WAY TO GO for all non turbo cars everybody would get it, no matter what mileage, because everybody on this page wants a fast car. If this is the most intelligent way to (which it isn't) then everyone would get it

 

[TimG]

Hey JJay, no offence but you are running your mouth a little too much with these people. I've skimmed through a lot of posts of ideas from everyone else and every idea you said was directly taken from other posts I've seen. I've been a part of this tuners page for a long time and I've seen a lot of stupid things but this is getting out of hand. A lot of things you say are wrong anyway... for instance.

"Secondly, it is not illegal to take off fast from a stoplight unless you keep picking up speed past the normal 40mph or 35mph city ordinance stated speed."

It is illegal. Though it was under 40mph, whoever got there too fast, which resulted in a 'dangerous driving' fine when a cop saw it.

Just drop it and stop getting the last word in. Just give it up because face it, we both have 4G63 N/T. I don't think my car is fast at all, that is why I'm making a custom turbo kit for it. There are ways around things and though non-turbos are slow, it doesn't mean they won't benefit from a few mods.

Xhypno resulted in 200WHP in his n/t 4G63, which is more then any stock 4G63 with a 14b on it. Here are his mods: Pacesetter 2.25" Mandrel bent and ceramic coated headers, freeflow cat, freeflow resinator, Glasspack Muffler, Port and Polished heads, 5 angle valve job, 320cc injectors, cam gears, underdrive crank pully, K&N, Ported intake Manifold, bored Throttle Body, 190lph supra fuel pump, 2g shift knob, Custom Geared Tranny with taller 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 5th gear and 2nd gear double sync.

If you noticed, it's all just exhaust and head work with a bit of air intake to help out. Everything mentioned was 1) Exhaust Mod or 2) Air Intake into the combustion chamber mod
The rest are just supporting fuel mods.

Please do us all a favour and stop posting smartass things. It's just pising people off.

 

[Hammy]

If you don't believe in nitrous, that's your choice, many don't for two reasons: 1. They fear it because they don't fully understand it or 2. They believe it is a form of cheating...."It's so easy to make so much hp??? It must be cheating." But the bottomline is that if you're going to add major hp to a high mileage car, you are going to have to accompany it with the supporting mods as well. Duh. That doesn't "just" apply to nitrous. Nitrous is just the easiest and cheapest way to get there. I'm not going to argue about "nitrous" anymore, I'd suggest you head over to the Nitrous Forum and discuss your issues there, because there are plenty of members who have vastly greater knowledge on the subject and much hands on experience (might I add that these are, yes, 1G owners....as well as 2g). It's a proven fact that DSMs can safetly run a 75shot without major modifications.

Now street racing. I'm sorry buddy, but racing is racing. If a cop sees you racing someone, no matter how fast you are going, you'll be nailed. Racing is a violation all on it's own, if you're also exceeding the speedlimit then they'll tack on a speeding violation, and they'll usually tack on a reckless driving violation along with whatever else they can think of depending on how they are feeling that day as well. They can even give you a citation for peeling out or revving your engine. You can argue all you want about this, but my friend is a NC state trooper and I'm just relaying the information he provided me. Plus, I have my share of traffic violations and know a few things by now...

Show car beautiful and 1G in the same sentence...there's an oxymoron. But on a side note, I would presume that about 80% of the best show cars are in fact equipped with nitrous. You must not get out to import shows too often not to realize this.

No I wouldn't recommend nitrous to you personally. Your type is the kind that squeezes 150 shot without a fuel upgrade, running 87 octane gas and platinum spark plugs. You would pull up to the first light and challenge a Geo Metro to a race, after about 10 more similar races that day you would be like, "my car is dead, what the hell happened?????" Your absolutley right, people like you need to just stay with the stickers and chrome hubcaps. Blinking lights and JDM cupholders are much more simple then actually making a car fast. You would probably just end up killing yourself, or more importantly, someone else. So I commend you on your fine judgement and wise decisions.

 

[L2RTSiAWD]

What is topic of this thread? and why shouldn't I lock it right now?

 

[LandoAWD]

Do any of you understand what a PM is?

 

[xleRateGSX]

Points have been given but we are beating a dead horse. Let it be, no one is going to change their mind.

 

[JJay]

Please do lock out this thread because it is going nowhere. I declined to answering to it for quite some time in order to let it die, but it did not.

 

[JJay]

I don't agree with your usage of nitrious in an old car and everyone would more than likely agree. If it was easy to do everyone would do it.
I can respond to as many opinions as I want as a DSM member. My comments don't have to be smarta$$ it is how you interpret them.
You don't understand my philosophy and don't agree with me then that is the end of it. Also you should personal email me with this so you want to post smarta$$ comments as well.
Stoplight racing has never plagued me and I have never been pulled over for it so I guess I must be a master at it. I have been pulled over more for my Neon underbody lights and my car just looking fast. There is no point to trying to pitch to you my philosophy so in all fairness I can agree to disagree with you. I don't think that is at all a smarta$$ answer. Again, I tried to let this thread die and people kept responding to it and I had not for quite a while until someone addressed me. Agree to disagree

 

[L2RTSiAWD]

Ok It's locked you can discuss further off the board.