EvoIII 16G

[trapspeed]

I'm using a small 16g right now. It pulls pretty good but I want to upgrade. Would there be a considerable amount of difference in power? Would it be worth almost 600 to go with the EvoIII? And how do you think it'll react to my mods?

Oh yea, is it a complete bolt on? To the stock exhaust manifold and such? I already have the oil return/feed line and all the stuff needed to do the 16g install.

 

[ShapeGSX]

Depends on boost level, supporting mods, etc..., there is no easy answer to a question like that. But the 50 trim is good for around the 425-450hp, perhaps more. It just depends on what options you go for when ordering it.

On a side note, the Evo III B16G reaches its peak efficiency around the 24-25 psi range. The small 16G reaches its maximum efficiency around the 21-22psi range.

I haven't yet found a compressor map for the Evo III 16G. It is not the same turbo as a big 16G. It is really impossible to say what the peak efficiency is.

And actually, it doesn't even matter. The Evo III definitely does flow more air than the small 16G at 21psi, though, regardless of where their peak efficiencies are.

 

[GSXlaunch]

Just curious...when you made your 11 sec run (congrats by the way) what boost were you running and on what fuel? Thanks

 

[ShapeGSX]

Just curious...when you made your 11 sec run (congrats by the way) what boost were you running and on what fuel? Thanks

117 octane Sunoco Supreme NOS race gas. I was running around 25psi.

 

[trapspeed]

117 octane Sunoco Supreme NOS race gas. I was running around 25psi.

And what do you think you would've ran on regular 91oct?

 

[ShapeGSX]

I've never let 91 octane anywhere near my car. Minimum is 93.

I suspect I could pull a mid to low 12 with 93 octane. I'll never know, though. When I race, I race to get my best possible time. Heading up to the track is a huge time investment, and I'm not going to waste it.

 

[GSXlaunch]

Well said brotha! I dont run anything but 117 race fuel. My first and only time at the track got me a pretty weak 13.9. That was with a slipping clutch, granny shifting, absolutely horrid launches (best 2.1) and only 17 psi and not to mention stock injectors/SMIC...mostly due to me driving "not to break anything". Next time, I am going all out. Last question - what injectors are/were you running?

 

[HighPsi92GST]

it is 10 bucks more at slowboy, i dont know where you found it at less than a big16g

go into the parts section on this site, and look under mitsu turbos. i was going by that. its cheaper then the big16

 

[pianoman]

i had a big 16g on my previous dsm's and i wished i had gone bigger, then i talked to a guy the other day who had a 50trim and just got a 57 trim and wished he had gotten it to begin with. if you already have a 16g, i would suggest going with somthing bigger like maby a fp3052 but then agian it all comes down to what you want, and how much lag you can withstand for daily driving. alot of people like the evo 16g, and are very happy with it. for the price its a great bolt on. but i would defintily go with some better injectors, a front mount, and a clutch.

 

[trapspeed]

I don't mind the lag.. It can become a FWD's best friend.

 

[pianoman]

turbocharges.com evoIII 16g $550.00 bucks

 

[Dieselboy]

And actually, it doesn't even matter. The Evo III definitely does flow more air than the small 16G at 21psi, though, regardless of where their peak efficiencies are.

Ofcourse it does, thats not the point. I was refering to the most boost you can run efficiently on each turbo. Would you try to run 20 psi on a T-25, or 25 psi on a 14B efficiently? No, after a certain boost level, your just blowing hot air. I have first hand experience with the small 16G, and it runs out of gas around the 23-24psi range. Thats why I recommended running it on 21-22psi max. You dont need flow charts to tell when a turbo runs out of gas.

 

[ShapeGSX]

All I am saying is what really matters is what kind of power you can make with a given turbo.

Whether or not the turbo does it efficiently or inefficiently doesn't really matter. In fact, a good intercooler can work wonders for an inefficient turbo.

 

[GSXlaunch]

"In fact, a good intercooler can work wonders for an inefficient turbo"

Good point...however it also and more importantly depends on the supporting mods.