Evo III 16G or GT?s

[weaver]

I'm buying a evo 16g from turbochargers.com They give you the choice of the 16G or the 16g GT version. I was wondering what you guys thing about the GT version. Is it as well made as the 16G? They have a page on their website defending the negative remarks about the GT, but I want to know what you thing about it.

Thanks

 

[Spoolin4Ever]

im planning on ordering the 2g solution tomorrow morning so i will fill everyone in with a lot of details once it arrives. Im curious does anyone know the most hp made on the gt. I know slowboy made 400 on the plain evo 3.?

The main difference between them is BUILD QUALITY. One is a cheap imitation, the other is an actual Mistubishi product. I have had my EVO3 for over one year, about 15,000 miles and it has not had any problems.

If you want to gamble your $500 on a POS turbo, then go ahead. Like this person that got bent IMHO:

"I just made the mistake of buying the GT turbo off of ssautochrome (EBAY). It is puking oil out of the cold side, ssautochrome said they wouldn't warranty it because it is a $2 seal. I have only put about 500 miles on it @ 7psi. I told them it should be under warranty because i don't want to tear this new turbo apart. They even give a 30 day warranty against defects They should at least stand behind that.

I just wanted to add that the mistake was buying it from ssautochrome. I was pleased with the performance of the turbo and i understand that sometimes things go wrong. Next time i will be sure to buy anything from turbochargers.com"

The mistake you made was buying a fake EVO turbo instead of buying the REAL MHI turbo.

Are we going to learn from this peron's mistake, or gamble our own $500 to find out the hard way?

And PLEASE stop spreading BS rumors of that you heard the GT was more reliable, when everyone know's it's a knockoff.

Read this one more time:

""I just made the mistake of buying the GT turbo off of ssautochrome (EBAY). It is puking oil out of the cold side, ssautochrome said they wouldn't warranty it because it is a $2 seal. I have only put about 500 miles on it @ 7psi."

It only lasted 500 miles! A $2 seal? That costs like $300 to replace! Unless you do it yourself, then they won't warranty it because they will blame it on you when things go wrong. That is total friggin BS! I would actually report them to the BBB, and anywhere else I could. DOn't take that crap. And give them bad feedback on eGay.

 

[Spoolin4Ever]

If you buy the "GT" (Coughs), let us know how things are going in 10K miles (Or sooner if it pukes). I am skeptical it will even make it that far.

Anybody own one that's made it that far with no failures? That's only about a year of driving for most people, if it's a daily driver.

 

[GeosTalon]

The main difference between them is BUILD QUALITY. One is a cheap imitation, the other is an actual Mistubishi product. I have had my EVO3 for over one year, about 15,000 miles and it has not had any problems.

If you want to gamble your $500 on a POS turbo, then go ahead. Like this person that got bent IMHO:

"I just made the mistake of buying the GT turbo off of ssautochrome (EBAY). It is puking oil out of the cold side, ssautochrome said they wouldn't warranty it because it is a $2 seal. I have only put about 500 miles on it @ 7psi. I told them it should be under warranty because i don't want to tear this new turbo apart. They even give a 30 day warranty against defects They should at least stand behind that.

I just wanted to add that the mistake was buying it from ssautochrome. I was pleased with the performance of the turbo and i understand that sometimes things go wrong. Next time i will be sure to buy anything from turbochargers.com"

The mistake you made was buying a fake EVO turbo instead of buying the REAL MHI turbo.

Are we going to learn from this peron's mistake, or gamble our own $500 to find out the hard way?

And PLEASE stop spreading BS rumors of that you heard the GT was more reliable, when everyone know's it's a knockoff.

I've had a GT for a couple of months, no issues at all. I'm really happy with it. I didn't buy it under the premise that it was an Evo turbo, I didn't buy it for the warranty. I bought it since I needed a replacement for my 14B. This turbo boosts hard, and I'm not gentle with it.

Where did anyone say that the GT was more reliable than an MHI 16G? Do you currently have or have you owned one of these turbos? Where do YOU come off calling a turbo you haven't owned crap? Some have had problems with them, some haven't. People have had issues with other turbos from other vendors. It's always YMMV with turbos.

 

[TheRealist]

GT'S are not reliable.

 

[GeosTalon]

GT'S are not reliable.

According to what? Do you speak from personal experience, I.E. owned this turbo? What happened to it?

 

[bob123131]

I'm not saying i dont agree wtih all of you that the gt is probably unrealiable, but if you are going to post it back it up. Yes most knockoffs suck, but some work just as good as the original so if you are going to give out info at least have experience with one of the two turbos. Spoolin if you look down the page there is a kid who has had a gt for a year and 2 months on a daily driver and its fine. Also so many people keep saying do you want to waste 500 dollars. You are only wasting 500 dollars if you dont get backed up with a warranty which tc.com is a decent company and will back their warranty in many cases. I know they did for my friend who had his for 7 months and went 8k miles on it. He beat the crap out of it too.

 

[TrboANTsi]

Well just letting you guys know. I purchased an EVO GT from tc.com and its running great pulls hard and im still tuning it. As far as i know ssautochrome sells a no frills 16g if you ever look on there stuff on ebay the housing has no marks whatsoever. I dont think they sell the EVO GT. The GT i have says EVO GT on the housing. That is what i think seperates the two, yes i do believe the SSautochrome turbos are junk, but not the one i purchased at least not yet. I still believe i made a wise choice. Why must everyone jump on the bandwagon and bash something they dont have. If you have the MHI the congrats. Everyone has a choice, I made mine as you made yours. So far 500 miles on the turbo and stil spoolin strong. I will keep everyone tuned in. Im sure every turbo manufacturer has had one of their turbos go bad, that doesnt mean everyones going to stop buying it. Well thats my two cents

 

[ShapeGSX]

So why not get the real thing for the same price?

 

[TrboANTsi]

For someone with my budget the GT sounded like a better deal. The real MHI still isnt ported and doesnt come with the upgraded flapper the GT came with all that. Add the porting and the flapper to the real MHI and the price goes up.

 

[ShapeGSX]

You don't need the Evo III 16G to be ported or have a larger flapper.

Mine doesn't. 11.82 with a best mph of 118.8.

In fact, the larger flapper can actually reduce the turbos true potential. And I don't see why porting is required. All of the exhaust still has to flow through a 7cm^2 hole, regardless of how large you make the tubes between the head and the turbine. You never hear about Garretts being ported.

 

[Spoolin4Ever]

I've had a GT for a couple of months, no issues at all. I'm really happy with it.

"I didn't buy it under the premise that it was an Evo turbo, I didn't buy it for the warranty. I bought it since I needed a replacement for my 14B. This turbo boosts hard, and I'm not gentle with it." I bough my EVO3 to replace my 14B as well. What's wrong with a one year warranty on a tried and true product? Why would I want to gamble on a copy product?

Where did anyone say that the GT was more reliable than an MHI 16G? <Read the thread

No need to be confuesed, just read the thread above. Well here, allow me:

"The second is the knock-off of the new and improved MHI EvoIII 16g. It is NOT made by mitsu, but it is claimed to perform as well as if not better than the MHI Evo. I'm sure a lot of people would like to know if this is really true, but the jury's is still out. Some people swear it is as good as the MHI and others swear they would never put it on their car. One thing is sure, the real MHI Evo 16g is better than the old big 16g, it spools faster and has the same power potential, SBR made 400hp on it with an uber engine. So, is the knock-off better/more reliable than the old big 16g? It is claimed to be."

Do you currently have or have you owned one of these turbos? No loike I said I don't wanna gamable, it's too expensive and a vital part to take a chance on, IMHO.

Where do YOU come off calling a turbo you haven't owned crap? Because I've read about it here on this site and elswhere.

Hey man, if you guys want to take the chance on it, I can't stop you. And maybe you guiys will have good results.

All I am asking is (an not getting personal or pist or trying to offend anyone, buy what you want):

1. Has anyone had one for a full year or 10K miles?

And for those of you with the balls to try it, more power to ya! I just know these cars can be expensive to keep running, and the turbo is no exception. I can't afford to spend $350-$500 on a part that will break in 1000 miles, and then the vendor not honoring the warranty, that sucks.

So how much are these going for anyway? I know a genuine EVO3 Mitsubishi Turbocharger with a one year warranty, tried and true is about $500.

So let us all know how many miles they last.

 

[Spoolin4Ever]

You don't need the Evo III 16G to be ported or have a larger flapper.

Mine doesn't. 11.82 with a best mph of 118.8.

In fact, the larger flapper can actually reduce the turbos true potential. And I don't see why porting is required. All of the exhaust still has to flow through a 7cm^2 hole, regardless of how large you make the tubes between the head and the turbine. You never hear about Garretts being ported.

Yes, all of you calling the MHI a "plain evo3", because you think you're getting a steal because the GT is ported and/or clipped, think again. Research before buying, heavily.

I mean a ported and clipped turd is still a turd (haha just a little joke).

 

[GeosTalon]

You don't need the Evo III 16G to be ported or have a larger flapper.

Mine doesn't. 11.82 with a best mph of 118.8.

In fact, the larger flapper can actually reduce the turbos true potential. And I don't see why porting is required. All of the exhaust still has to flow through a 7cm^2 hole, regardless of how large you make the tubes between the head and the turbine. You never hear about Garretts being ported.

I think your car is in the minority. First of all, it runs. Second, it runs fast. You've found the mods that make it work.

Most of the Garretts are better castings, I would think. There are folks that port their turbos out because they are trying to get everything they can out of it. IMHO, I think the effort is too great for the time involved.

 

[GeosTalon]

I've had a GT for a couple of months, no issues at all. I'm really happy with it.

"I didn't buy it under the premise that it was an Evo turbo, I didn't buy it for the warranty. I bought it since I needed a replacement for my 14B. This turbo boosts hard, and I'm not gentle with it." I bough my EVO3 to replace my 14B as well. What's wrong with a one year warranty on a tried and true product? Why would I want to gamble on a copy product?

Where did anyone say that the GT was more reliable than an MHI 16G? <Read the thread

No need to be confuesed, just read the thread above. Well here, allow me:

"The second is the knock-off of the new and improved MHI EvoIII 16g. It is NOT made by mitsu, but it is claimed to perform as well as if not better than the MHI Evo. I'm sure a lot of people would like to know if this is really true, but the jury's is still out. Some people swear it is as good as the MHI and others swear they would never put it on their car. One thing is sure, the real MHI Evo 16g is better than the old big 16g, it spools faster and has the same power potential, SBR made 400hp on it with an uber engine. So, is the knock-off better/more reliable than the old big 16g? It is claimed to be."

Do you currently have or have you owned one of these turbos? No loike I said I don't wanna gamable, it's too expensive and a vital part to take a chance on, IMHO.

Where do YOU come off calling a turbo you haven't owned crap? Because I've read about it here on this site and elswhere.

Hey man, if you guys want to take the chance on it, I can't stop you. And maybe you guiys will have good results.

All I am asking is (an not getting personal or pist or trying to offend anyone, buy what you want):

1. Has anyone had one for a full year or 10K miles?

And for those of you with the balls to try it, more power to ya! I just know these cars can be expensive to keep running, and the turbo is no exception. I can't afford to spend $350-$500 on a part that will break in 1000 miles, and then the vendor not honoring the warranty, that sucks.

So how much are these going for anyway? I know a genuine EVO3 Mitsubishi Turbocharger with a one year warranty, tried and true is about $500.

So let us all know how many miles they last.

For me, I bought it because I needed a complete setup (mani, lines and hardware), and for $699 this filled the need without killing my wallet. And while I could've went with the MHI turbo, I'm up for trying new things. It's only a matter of time before I want to go bigger and better so it may not even be on the car a full year.

Someone in this thread posted up about having the GT for over a year with no issues. My issue with this whole thing is that the people that had it fail scream a HELL of a lot louder than the people who've not had problems. I'm sure there are people that may have the GT that aren't on this board and we never hear about it.

The turbo itself is $459 from TC directly. It's a nice piece overall. I got mine and checked the tolerances, seemed like any other turbo I've had.

And what's up with a competing vendor bashing this turbo (it's on the TC.com website)? That's just unprofessional.

 

[ShapeGSX]

I think your car is in the minority. First of all, it runs. Second, it runs fast. You've found the mods that make it work.

If your car doesn't run, then I definitely wouldn't get the turbo ported.

 

[Tom N]

Yes, all of you calling the MHI a "plain evo3", because you think you're getting a steal because the GT is ported and/or clipped, think again. Research before buying, heavily.

I mean a ported and clipped turd is still a turd (haha just a little joke).

I`ve gone 11.4 and made 414hp with a GT from TC.com
How about you.

 

[GeosTalon]

If your car doesn't run, then I definitely wouldn't get the turbo ported.

Well, if you are down already I suppose it would kill some time. Spending 10 hours with a porting bit; yes, that's right under the subsection of "No".

 

[dr1ftx3]

Man, I was on the fence about this issue earlier and I thought that I'd made my mind up to get the real MHI, but now that people are still saying the GT is worth it, I'm starting to reconsider. How can you beat $699 for a ported mani,16g, and install kit? =\

 

[L2RTSiAWD]

This thread has gone on long enough. There are the same cheerleaders and naysayers for each turbo in every one of these threads. There is enough information out there for you to make a decision with re-hashing the same shit in every one of these threads.