Eclipse GSX Twinturbo (comments are welcome)

[Iceman67]

The engine of my car is at Ferrari Garage for full upgrade, the mechanic work in my engine he want install the two turbo that Ferrari F40 use he make Exhaust Manifold and all is necessary, one turbo for two pistons.
What do you think about this turbo system?

 

[95dodgeavenger]

ineffient and not needed.. spend the money on a nice single turbo setup.. i mean its your money do what you want with it... just spend it wisley...



but props for the work if its done

 

[TurboDSM86]

The engine of my car is at Ferrari Garage for full upgrade, the mechanic work in my engine he want install the two turbo that Ferrari F40 use he make Exhaust Manifold and all is necessary, one turbo for two pistons.
What do you think about this turbo system?

This topic has been covered a lot. Try a search for extensive info. Basically as previously stated you get bigger gains for less money, and its much easier with a single turbo set up.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do

 

[ESIlover]

If you don't have an aftermarket header for your car get one and get a t28bb turbo, you will have fast spool up and it will be able to take 30 + psi on that turbo. Then again its your money.

 

[speedy13]

FERRARI!!!F40!!! I will put any ferrari part on my car i could!!

 

[Iceman67]

The reason I post is for ear different opinions before start the work

 

[boostedfwdtsi]

do it hell why not then when some one says is that turbo. you get the joy and pride of say no its twin turbo. thats about the only reason id do it but shit it be sweet what turbos would he be putting on. what mods do you already have? the f40 whats that a v12 /v10 ? and he wants to do this to a 4cyl eclipse 1g. id think he wouldnt wast his time with even touching your car. being the prices he must get paid to work on the f40

 

[Iceman67]

Ok the mechanic is my friend is working in my engine change rod pistons..... all parts is up grade for do the engine powerfull, he ask me if I like to do something different for my car, he is waiting for my aswer.

 

[L2RTSiAWD]

Don't do it, save yourself headaches and just get one turbo on there.

 

[PieEyedPiper]

Do it, its never been done before so give it a shot.
I don't kow much about those turbos but if they're form the F40, I'm sure they're massive. Make sure your buddy knows what he's doing and builds up your engine adequately.

Go for it!

Edit: the main concern when trying to dos omething like this is cost, if this guy is gonna hook you up I see no reason not to do this. The only headache I could forsee would be my crying wallet.
Unless anyone cares to be more informative than a simple "Don't do it, it's gonna give you headaches".

Myself, I'd need better reasoning than that to not leave my shoe laces untied on a daily basis.

 

[Iceman67]

Do it, its never been done before so give it a shot.
I don't kow much about those turbos but if they're form the F40, I'm sure they're massive. Make sure your buddy knows what he's doing and builds up your engine adequately.

Go for it!

He is a official mechanic for Ferrari he know what he talking about and he follow the ferrari challenge.

 

[hisandherturbo]

in talk sounds good, but something I haven't heard mentioned is spool up.......... if it's from a F40 then it's designed for 5 cyl ea turbo, you would be doin this on waaaaaaaay less then 1/2 the engine. Same reason you wouldn't put a FP3065 on a stock car with nothing else done to it. Also keep in mind a lot of the V6 and V8's upgrade to a single turbo design for an upgrade. Maybe 1 would be better.......... but check the spec's on them, see if they even compair to some of the aftermarket turbo's we can get........ that's my $.02............. curious what you will do

 

[slugsgomoo]

the f40 is a 3.5L v8 that produces 450+hp

There is no point in doing that mod as you will never make as much useable power as you could on a single. Twins ONLY make sense on v-motors, or on larger displacement inlines that are trying to decrease lag (i.e. sequential)

Also, given that there were something like 819 F40's made, i'm guessing replacement parts are really cheap.

You might want to stick to tried & true.

 

[Denji]

That setup is not good. Even when rx-7 tt and supra tt upgrade, they upgrade from 2 turbos to 1 turbo (for drag racing at least). There is no benefit to putting both turbos on one exhaust manifold, its more work and less effective than a cheaper single turbo setup.

 

[timloomis]

2 turbos on a 2 liter is pointless.and how you gonna get 30 psi on a t28?

 

[funniegus]

What if he gets higher compression pistons, or makes it a stroker, wont that help a bit with spool up?

 

[99gst_racer]

Ask your mechanic friend the following questions:

Are the turbos on the F40 channel bearing or ball bearing?
What is the inducer size?
What is the exducer size?

And please post back with answers......

 

[EclipseGsxDsm]

I think a TT setup on a gsx would be badass but i definetly wouldnt try spooling the turbos from a ferrari with a 2.0L. Im just throwing this out there but maybe there are turbos for say a motorcycle or something that could still push a good amount of boost (say 30lbs) and still spool up at around say 3000-3500rpms, it may be wishful thinking but i think it would be very respectable customization!!!

 

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[Iceman67]

First of all my engine is not 2.0 but is 2.4, the rods are Manley and hold 800hp the head is upgrade the block is upgrade pistons and valves the mechanic make for my car with the same alloy they used for the Ferrari, the TT is only an idea my friend think if is possible, already I have the turbo is a Garrett T3 upgrade and with ceramic bearings with DNP T3/T4 Style Tubular Manifold w/ Tial 40 Flange and the rest of the parts I have. I like to ear the comments of other people that have car like mine, I know when you say sound good but I know that TT is only in car with 6 cylinder above, thanks to everybody for support myself.

 

[SBstar]

Well you have a pretty set up engine there, chances are you have the supporting mods for a large turbo too. Injectors, tuning, etc...? If you do and you really want to go with something that will make your car a drag star then go with the tried and true single turbo deal. If you just want to do something for fun that no one else has done, and impress the socks off everyone you meet then i say go for it. Depends on what you want to do with the car.

 

[DSMTalonAWD51]

newbie forum woo hoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

 

[99gst_racer]

I know that TT is only in car with 6 cylinder above

Not necessarily. The 3rd gen RX7 is a twin turbo and it is basically a 2 cylinder. It can be done correctly, but I wouldn't waste my time or money on it. If you were using (2) relatively small ball-bearing turbos, I would think a 2.4L could spool those decently. But if you have a couple of massive channel bearing turbos, there's no way they are ever going to work efficiently. Do you have any information on the Ferrari F40 turbochargers?

 

[DSMjunkie]

My opinion its not worth the headache iceman...like yea cool you can walk around saying you have a tt eclipse..to me it sounds like waste of money and a big disaster waiting to happen but hey you pull it off and you will be adding a whole new dimenstion to dsms to come

 

[tim4g63fast]

OK. I'm not going to read what everyone Else has to say but here is my opinion and i have went over this topic extensively.

First its expensive and a pain in the arse but you've been told that 24 times already.

second with a twin turbo setup you get fluctuation between the turbos making your ecu go crazy. I cant exactly explain this but refer to sport compact car, that dude for that totally awsome totally underground racing movie fast and that furious actually owns a tt skyline. he decided to keep the twin turbo setup obviously he upgraded it though. well the turbos did the whole fluctuation thing and the ecu threw that car into like limp and ya. I don't remember the story exactly but there was oil gushing out of the bov. the mechanic said they planed to do a single turbo setup after that. ( I don't know if a dsm ecu is capable of doing something like that)

for the third and final reason you should not do this, (you want to go fast) any twin turbo car that is going to make serious power switches to a single turbo setup anyways. hmmmmmmm. i wonder why. tt is no very efficient. anyways theres my 2cents.

hell what do i know I'm a rookie. (evoIII big 16g rocks my world)