ebay 95neon flywheel?

[mikepc]

Are the 95 neon flywheel/flex plate on ebay just as good as a stock one?

debating if i should by a used one and just order one on ebay

 

[95talongirl]

dodge avenger? are you still running the stock clutch? iif so, it's a modular design... you'll need a few more items to convert it to a conventional clutch setup; which is what is probably being offered through ebay.

 

[mikepc]

ya avenger 420a. now turbo'd. i want to switch to non modular. and get a stage 3 clutch and pp from southbend. i just dont want to make sure the ebay flywheel will hold up to the power

 

[95talongirl]

Well... when it comes to things like flywheels, I'd say stick with an reputable source. I've seen these things blow apart and they can cause some serious damage to the car and the driver....

 

[mikepc]

okay would you happen to know anywhere i can get an oem 95 neon flywheel?

 

[Th3DooM]

You should always check the local junkyards for parts. Or you buy them from your local dodge dealer.

Keep in mind that you also need longer bolts to tighten the cr*p together. the 420a bolts are too short. The 95 neon bolts should be fine.

 

[CODE4]

okay would you happen to know anywhere i can get an oem 95 neon flywheel?

OEM means dealer part in most cases.

 

[95talongirl]

Right. If you are looking for stock replacement, a dealer or salvage yard would work. You will have to look for mexican built neons (the first digit of the vin will be a "3" instead of a "1") for the standard clutch setup. The american built neons recieved the modular style clutch.

If you are looking for something aftermarket, try ACT. I'm not a fan of thier clutches; but I do love thier flywheels.

 

[mikepc]

Alright I'll take a look at some ACT clutches. Thanks for help.

 

[LD25Delta9]

BRRRRNNNT!!!! Wrong Answer. Go South Bend Clutch(SBC) or Fidanza for the flywheel. Fidanza is one of the most trusted names for on of the cheapest prices. I'm not sure of the Torque, but a local DSM guru around here, Travis Troyer, was able to put 1104HP (after NoS) on a 6bolt with a Fidanza Flyheel before it sheared the bolts holding the clutch to the flywheel... Kyle Mavis (Mavisky) will confirm this as he helped build the engine with him.

 

[b00st3d4g63]

I had a fidanza flywheel and it came apart after about 50 miles. I changed to an act and haven't had any problems. +1 for act.

 

[95talongirl]

Aluminum flywheels are not recommended for daily driver applications. Stick with something that has a bit more weight. Here is why:

1. Daily driving generates more heat with the constant disengaging/engaging of the clutch. A steel flywheel can absorb and dissipate this heat better. Aluminum can warp much easier.

2. Aluminum flywheels allow for quicker deaccelration/accelation but at the cost of drivability. You will find the car will stall out easier, since it does not "store" the energy as long as a steel one does. What does this mean? Well, say you are on a hill... you need more slippage in this case. Also, the more grabby clutches can tear up aluminum flywheels pretty quickly. There's a reason why they are really designed for racing purposes and work very well for that!!

My suggestion would be to go with the Chromoly (love my ACT Cromoly!) one if you want the benefits of a lightened flywheel but with better heat absorbtion/dissapation characteristics.

 

[mikepc]

I'll be going with a oem flywheel , since I'm boosted. And it's a dd. And talked to the guys a sbc. And will be going with a stage 3.

 

[gudz519]

great thread i have been looking for some answers. so i can buy a 95 neon flywheel to make my 98 eclipse 420a a non modular setup. do i need it out of a specific model and does that mean i also get the clutch for the 95 neon as well any information would be nice thank you

 

[95talongirl]

mikepc: oh ok! didn't know you were running a turbo. i think you're making a good decision.

gudz95: 95-99 neon should be interchangeable. However, I believe the mexican built neons started to get the modular setup in the later years. So I'd say earlier the build date, the better. You'll also need to get the crank bolts from the car; as the modular clutch uses shorter bolts.

 

[gudz519]

mikepc: oh ok! didn't know you were running a turbo. i think you're making a good decision.

gudz95: 95-99 neon should be interchangeable. However, I believe the mexican built neons started to get the modular setup in the later years. So I'd say earlier the build date, the better. You'll also need to get the crank bolts from the car; as the modular clutch uses shorter bolts.

great thanks for the information what clutch would i have to get one for a neon?

 

[Fotowntalon]

1. Daily driving generates more heat with the constant disengaging/engaging of the clutch. A steel flywheel can absorb and dissipate this heat better. Aluminum can warp much easier.

2. Aluminum flywheels allow for quicker deaccelration/accelation but at the cost of drivability. You will find the car will stall out easier, since it does not "store" the energy as long as a steel one does. What does this mean? Well, say you are on a hill... you need more slippage in this case. Also, the more grabby clutches can tear up aluminum flywheels pretty quickly. There's a reason why they are really designed for racing purposes and work very well for that!!

Out of curiosity, how much of this is amplified/lessened by being boosted or the fact that you are AWD as opposed to a FWD or NA?

 

[mavisky]

BRRRRNNNT!!!! Wrong Answer. Go South Bend Clutch(SBC) or Fidanza for the flywheel. Fidanza is one of the most trusted names for on of the cheapest prices. I'm not sure of the Torque, but a local DSM guru around here, Travis Troyer, was able to put 1104HP (after NoS) on a 6bolt with a Fidanza Flyheel before it sheared the bolts holding the clutch to the flywheel... Kyle Mavis (Mavisky) will confirm this as he helped build the engine with him.

Please don't drag my name into nonsense bullshit. I never help Travis build his motor, and even on NOS it never made more than 640hp to the wheels. Certainly never cleared 1000. I was there the last day that car ever touched a dyno.

 

[95talongirl]

Out of curiosity, how much of this is amplified/lessened by being boosted or the fact that you are AWD as opposed to a FWD or NA?

I would say due to AWD, the "slippage" seen is naturally decreased somewhat. This is also harder on the drivetrain as a whole since the slippage lessens the shock drivetrain shock when the car gets traction. (aka... lack of tire spin) From what I've read, this is one of the reasons why AWD cars tend to go through clutches quicker. Of course, driving style plays a role too.

I'll look into this some more; it's defiantly an interesting thought.

gudz: here's a link to exedy's page for a clutch. Reason I'm adding it is it gives you a nice list of cars that are interchangable; since I'm not sure what kind of clutch you want to go with.
EXEDY Globalparts Corporation | High Performance and OEM Clutches and Flywheels Edit: crap.. that is probably still a modular design. I'll do some more looking. I know Mopar Performance offered a nice clutch for the PT cruiser.. used to run that in my neon. Idk if they still offer it anymore, tho.

 

[Shake_Zulla]

I would say due to AWD, the "slippage" seen is naturally decreased somewhat. This is also harder on the drivetrain as a whole since the slippage lessens the shock drivetrain shock when the car gets traction. (aka... lack of tire spin) From what I've read, this is one of the reasons why AWD cars tend to go through clutches quicker. Of course, driving style plays a role too.

I'll look into this some more; it's defiantly an interesting thought.

gudz: here's a link to exedy's page for a clutch. Reason I'm adding it is it gives you a nice list of cars that are interchangable; since I'm not sure what kind of clutch you want to go with.
EXEDY Globalparts Corporation | High Performance and OEM Clutches and Flywheels Edit: crap.. that is probably still a modular design. I'll do some more looking. I know Mopar Performance offered a nice clutch for the PT cruiser.. used to run that in my neon. Idk if they still offer it anymore, tho.

You are a clutch goddess!

Quick question though... Why hasn't anyone asked him what is torque he's throwing down? Even a general Hp guess or current psi or what he's using the car for (autox or 1/4mile)? IMO all these questions should be answered before recomending any clutch or even flywheel. Just thinking out loud here and no disrespect to the far more knowledgeable people out there.

 

[95talongirl]

It seems like it was more of a question as to where to get a conventional clutch setup. Once that was found, then we could discuss power levels.
Most companies out there offer clutch kits from stock to whatever your can car throw at it.