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Second, I don't like NFS anyways, So I would gladly sign something boycotting the game.

Another reason why most people signing the game make this even more invalid...previous judgements, people who would never play the game in the first place.
 
Ones is a 96 eclipse and the other is a bugagtti veyron (how ever you spell it) which one would you choose and WHY?


This is a poor example. Only a complete fool would pick the Eclipse in this example. I would for the soul purpose of selling the Veyron, and buying a house 2 dsm's and an Evo LOL.
 
This is a poor example. Only a complete fool would pick the Eclipse in this example. I would for the soul purpose of selling the Veyron, and buying a house 2 dsm's and an Evo LOL.

So you agree you're a complete fool? Glad we got that cleared up.

I think while we are making useless lists, we should make one to boycott every game that ever wrecked our favorite car in a commercial, because they OBVIOUSLY hate that car because they could have used another one.

Let's also boycott every game that has showed our favorite sports team losing/missing shots/missing tackles, etc since they OBVIOUSLY hate our favorite team.

See how crazy those ideas sound? This one is the same thing. It's not a shot at DSMs, it's advertising. Someone already said it, that it was probably just someone's personal car, and they are probably correct. Harmless
 
Someone already said it, that it was probably just someone's personal car, and they are probably correct. Harmless

And they (office coworkers) probably busted on that person all the time for the color of the car and such, and for being older, and not getting a new car, so they thought it would be funny to have 2 half-ass celebrities bust on the car in a commercial. I don't get why people can't get this, and the fact that there was no DIRECT shot at the car make or model, through their heads, and that petitions don't do anything in this non-constitutional world. If this was 1776 a petition like this would surely do something, but not anymore. You need to get a spot on Fox News or CNN if you want to be heard. I wish I worked at EA in whatever department will deal with this crap so I could be a total dick and tell you all if you don't like it, don't buy the game, we'll still make millions off other people.
 
You guys are hilarious. All butthurt over a stupid game.

I could care less about the actual video game as it never interested me. I thought the commercial was absolutely hilarious.

Grow the hell up, you guys are whining because our 11-year discontinued vehicle is not in a game anymore. Go bi*** at the Gran Turismo people then for not including a 1G or 2G AWD DSM as they still only have a FWD 2G available in GT5. Seriously, it is just a car, get over it that the rest of the world has moved on.

The DSM'er is a dying breed that is not profitable in almost every market nowadays. The only thing keeping the 4G63 platform profitable was the Evo 8/9 platform in the US, and even then...that is long gone also, with the 4B11T platform here for the Evo 10/ralliart people. The age demographic for a DSM has been the 16-28year old single male for for around 15 years now. Most of them can not afford a new car like an evo, and settle for a couple thousand dollar AWD turbo car that is cheap and easy to modify, hence the purchase of a DSM. Leading to the future of owning a jack-stand car with hopes and dreams while becoming broke or into debt every day the vehicle is owned. Rarely, only rarely, does the car even see sunlight under its own power for a couple days of function, fun and abuse before breaking again and returning to jackstands. Most DSM'ers live by purchasing second-hand performance parts at a discounted price and never pay full-price for anything. Most DSM'ers are cheap because they simply cannot afford all the expensive things; it is not an insult, it is simply reality.

So, for all of you guys complaining about a stupid commercial, go back and watch Fast and the Furious and whack off to the ricer 420A 2G eclipse.

At least this commercial had a clean AWD 5-Speed Talon in it.

Don't take life too seriously.
 
You guys are hilarious. All butthurt over a stupid game.

I could care less about the actual video game as it never interested me. I thought the commercial was absolutely hilarious.

Grow the hell up, you guys are whining because our 11-year discontinued vehicle is not in a game anymore. Go bi*** at the Gran Turismo people then for not including a 1G or 2G AWD DSM as they still only have a FWD 2G available in GT5. Seriously, it is just a car, get over it that the rest of the world has moved on.

The DSM'er is a dying breed that is not profitable in almost every market nowadays. The only thing keeping the 4G63 platform profitable was the Evo 8/9 platform in the US, and even then...that is long gone also, with the 4B11T platform here for the Evo 10/ralliart people. The age demographic for a DSM has been the 16-28year old single male for for around 15 years now. Most of them can not afford a new car like an evo, and settle for a couple thousand dollar AWD turbo car that is cheap and easy to modify, hence the purchase of a DSM. Leading to the future of owning a jack-stand car with hopes and dreams while becoming broke or into debt every day the vehicle is owned. Rarely, only rarely, does the car even see sunlight under its own power for a couple days of function, fun and abuse before breaking again and returning to jackstands. Most DSM'ers live by purchasing second-hand performance parts at a discounted price and never pay full-price for anything. Most DSM'ers are cheap because they simply cannot afford all the expensive things; it is not an insult, it is simply reality.

So, for all of you guys complaining about a stupid commercial, go back and watch Fast and the Furious and whack off to the ricer 420A 2G eclipse.

At least this commercial had a clean AWD 5-Speed Talon in it.

Don't take life too seriously.

:applause::applause:
 
So you agree you're a complete fool? Glad we got that cleared up

Childish!! IMO



Let's also boycott every game that has showed our favorite sports team losing/missing shots/missing tackles, etc since they OBVIOUSLY hate our favorite team.

And Tell me ONE Sports game that had an ad of one specific team lossing??
Just curious to know what you can come up with because im not to sure ive ever seen one!

And to use the example of choosing a 15 year old car compared to a 2 Million dollar car is just damn right retarded!!
Like stated before, i too would pick the bugatti and sell it for something more realistic to my likings! Did you know in an avg persons life, their total lifetime income couldn't pay but maybe a little more than half that car.. thats maybe 25-30 years of working with out spending a dime on ANYTHING!
That example is Useless!

and i believe some of you dont have a sense of humor to understand why they started this.. you are the type of people that ALWAYS have to say something negative. You all drive these cars, why are you soo angry that someone was, at the time, upset and mostly jokingly made this thread?

Just sit back drink a beer and smile, let them boycott whatever they want, if you dont' agree, you don't have to! But why even say anything, it not charging anyones mind on what they think! Which make that a waste of your time, when you could be doing something for productive, like... getting laid!!

its time people in this world losen up and relax!
 
Lol Tim why is it that Wisconsin people seem to hate DSM's over everyone else?

I full admit DSM's are garbage, and then fellow dsmers ask me why I hate them so much.

I don't hate them, they're just garbage.
 
they have a 2g in need for speed prostreet of course i have one (runs a little better than mine though). the submodel on the back says G-ts though weird huh
 
Lol Tim why is it that Wisconsin people seem to hate DSM's over everyone else?

I full admit DSM's are garbage, and then fellow dsmers ask me why I hate them so much.

I don't hate them, they're just garbage.

They are just old cars. I still enjoy DSM's in general, and love working on them as they really are quite easy to work on.

I just think that we get hateful of them as there are simply so many cheap ass noob toolbags wrecking whatever DSM's are left in nice condition out there. I cannot tell you how many uber-hacked DSM's I have seen in the last couple years (actually, Lofty, you know as you see the ones around us too...especially Watertown DSMers), that have made me feel like the people that own the remaining DSM's have little to no respect for them. They normally don't do any research or hard work or take good care of them, and expect others to do everything for them.

Maybe I am just grumpy today, but dammit, there are too many whiners out there. I am old, and it shows today.
 
Tim, you are grumpy everyday. :p

Yes I agree. It is stupid and asinine to even think a $28,000 15-20 year old sports car would be included in a game featuring NEW $65,000 sports cars and $350,000 exotics.

My impression is that everyone is made that they said "Something you actually want to drive," as in who in the hell would want to drive a dsm?

I see the issue as not insulting the car/platform, but insulting the owner. Like, "What is wrong with you for wanting to drive that car?"
 
The demographic a car just happens to be most associated with, has no bearing on its actual capabilities. If you hate the demographic DSMs are associated with and hold the car responsible THEN GET THE #### OUT OF THE SCENE. Don't come in here whining about "whiners" who are trying to stand up for something they believe in.

Saying DSMs are garbage because everyone rices them out its a fallacy of logic. Thats like saying they're unreliable because YOU forget to change the oil when you need to.

Seriously, its no wonder some of you are barely anything more than glorified mechanics. All this talk of "only people who can afford 3k cars buy these" then comparing them with 100k+ cars is ridiculous. You sound arrogant.

So, to recap:

1. EA releases trailer specifically representing DSMs as a crap car.
2. A group of enthusiasts get together to protest; rightly so as DSMs have contributed alot to the automotive import community.
3. Random people from said community try to defend EA with craptastic examples that are actually completely irrelevant.

Seriously, I guess I'll just ignore everything that bothers me. That would have put me in such a better position if I let people just ####ing walk over me! What was I thinking?

Haha you guys are crazy.
 
Again I will say and defend that they did not rag on DSM. Get it through your heads. They said sports coupe-ay. This is insanity. And it doesn't compare or belong in a game with $40-50k+ sports cars. Most of the cars aren't even true sports cars anyway. People come here because they are into working on cars and chose this as a platform, not that DSM is a way of life. If that's the case for some people then I feel sorry for them because they obviously think their platform is the best in the world, and maybe not the best for just them. I love/hate my car, but there are other turbo 4 cylinders out there I would take over this car any day of the week. DSMs only seem to compete and make big names in the drag racing scene. Other forms of racing have classes. You wouldn't expect an AWD 4-cylinder to be paired up with say a race-prepped Viper for a road course now would you?
 
And Tell me ONE Sports game that had an ad of one specific team lossing??
Just curious to know what you can come up with because im not to sure ive ever seen one!

Either we aren't on the same page, or you have never seen a sports ad before. You're honestly saying you've never seen a football game commercial where a player humiliates a player with a stiff arm, hurdle, sack, etc and doing a dance afterwords? Never seen a soccer game with a goal being scored making the goalie look bad? Never seen a baseball game where a pitcher strikes the guy out and he puts his head down as he walks back to the dugout?

The games never came out and said "so-n-so sucks", BUT NEITHER DID EA! Therefore we should boycott these games just like some are boycotting this "dsm bashing" because the same thing occurred; one team/person/thing appears to be less than equal compared to another. Nothing more, nothing less.

I don't believe EA ever said dsm, 4g63, eclipse, laser, talon, 4yclinder, gs-t, gsx, tsi, diamond star, etc. in their ad.

At least ramsack, twicks, and a few others here have their heads on straight.

BTW, I like the guy saying let's protest youtube (joking). He realizes this boycott is stupid too.
 
My office coworkers busted on me all the time for the color of my car and such, and for it being older, and not getting a new car, so they thought it would be funny to have 2 half-ass celebrities bust on my in a commercial. I don't get why people can't get this, and the fact that there was no DIRECT shot at the car make or model.
FIXED:D
We all know this is what you really meant to say... .J/k
I wish I could tell you all I really work at EA in the department that deals with this crap so, I could be a total dick and tell you all if you don't like it, don't buy the game, we'll still make millions off other people.

Or maybe this... .ROFL

They are just old cars. I still enjoy DSM's in general, and love working on them as they really are quite easy to work on.

I just think that we get hateful of them as there are simply so many cheap ass noob toolbags wrecking whatever DSM's are left in nice condition out there. I cannot tell you how many uber-hacked DSM's I have seen in the last couple years (actually, Lofty, you know as you see the ones around us too...especially Watertown DSMers), that have made me feel like the people that own the remaining DSM's have little to no respect for them. They normally don't do any research or hard work or take good care of them, and expect others to do everything for them.

Maybe I am just grumpy today, but dammit, there are too many whiners out there. I am old, and it shows today.

I totally agree with this... but I'm grumpy all the time so:idontknow:
(although I have no idea about about the cars in your area LOL)

I do have to say this of course this does doesn't apply to everyone yet it wouldn't matter if "these" people owned a dsm or anything else it would just be happening to a different platform:| (just wish they did)

All an all, I think at this point everyone weather they agree with anyone or not should protest it. look what its doing to this community ROFL They have pitted us against each other LOL

But seriously this is all mostly turning into an argument about peoples own opinions whether they have anything to do with this or not...LOL
Come on people lighten up:thumb:a few of you keep making arguments that are apples to oranges and just don't make sense. just let it go... .
 
You never cease to amuse me with your mostly ignorant posts. And you keep coming back trying to defend EA. You work for them or something? You take peoples opinions personally, which is very childish. Everyone has as much of a right to express their opinion as you do. You're not special.

Speaking of people whining, every third post in this thread is you bitching about peoples' comments.

And you can buy a Ferrari or something with the amount of money spent modding a dsm? Are you ####ing retarded? How many people have dropped $350k on a dsm? 8 second drag dsms only have about 80k-100k in them. The average drag racer has about 25k, and the average dsm'r has around what? 5k?

If you want to go head to head ceteris paribus? Sure. Let's assume you spent top dollar for a new dsm. $28,000. How fast are you going to go with a $28,000 Ferrari? Here's news for you. You wouldn't even have a running car.

If I was a millionaire, I would never buy a dsm. When you drop 350k on a car its not always because its the fastest, its because its beautiful and you can afford it. Its like when you buy jewelery.

Any car can be built to smoke ferrari's, lambo's, porsche's, even veyron's.

If you had $20 million in your account , would you buy any dsm?

You guys are very immature and whine too much. Guys on other forums are simply laughing at this. Thats exactly how I found out about this, from another forum.

Amazing how biased some of you guys are thinking dsm's are the only cars that can be built to smoke Ferrari's for a fraction of the price. Anything modified can run 9s. Get a 15s Mustang and dump $25,000 and you'll run 9s. Same thing goes for many cars including from Honda, Toyota, and Nissan. Don't act like you're special. This does not make all these cars suddenly better than exotics cause they are faster?

I'm sick of people saying my purpose built drag car will smoke a Ferrari for a fraction of the price. A multi millionaire wouldn't be caught dead driving your car. Two different cars, two different purposes.

The commercial was a joke, so don't blow it out of proportion. I don't think the guys at EA thought how much they hate dsm's, that they just had to make a commercial to bash it. They're comparing it to supercars, and in this game we get to drive cars we always wish we could have , but can't afford.

W've noticed many of you bashing Honda's, so we decided to boycott Dsmtuners. My Friends and I created a list of people who decided to rescind their memberships, and or avoid becoming new members.

Feel free to add your name to the list...

People who signed up already..........
1.Chuck Baley
2.Rodney Cole
3.Faroot Mohamed
4.Michael Jordan
5.Dominique Toretto
6.Brian O'Connor
7.Hans chan
8.Justin Bieber
9.Jeremy Clarkson
10.Tanner Foust
11.Kenny
12.Vin Diesel
13.Wayne Gretzky
14.Paul Tracy
15.Dick Tracy
16.Jason Statham
17.Napoleon Dynamite
18.Hugh Hefner
19.Batman
20.John Mcclane
21.Robin of Locksley
22.Encino man
23.Bill Cosby
24.Clark Kent
25.Pauly D
26.Rocky Balboa
27.Johnny Tran
28.Ferris Bueller

These are people who have once owned or still own a Honda and are determined for the Honda bashing to end. We will rally to end this discrimination any way possible. Emails will be sent to your administrator's and all over the world until people can appreciate how great Honda's are. Join us and add your name to the list.

Like I said earlier don't take this serious. I own many cars including a daily, street driven 10s civic(soon to be in the 9s) and when someone makes fun of it I don't cry like a baby. It is what it is. And if I had the money, I'd be telling you about my quad turbo Lambo.

For the record I like Dsm's. My boy Brian O'Connor once had a crazy 10s Eclipse but unfortunately Johnny Tran and his boys blew it up.

http://www.jdmrides.ca/forum/electronic-arts-hates-dsms-t72605.html
 
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This was never meant to sound whiney or complaining. If you outsiders really think about it, we were just sticking up for our cars. It's not immature to fight for what you believe in. All that we tried to do was get ourselves heard so that EA thinks twice about "unintentionally" bashing on a car. If no one ever stands up to them, what would come next? If we get ridiculed out of the car enthusiast scene and let our cars die off, we shouldn't deserve to be driving them in the first place. I don't think any of the dsmtuners intentions were misplaced in contributing to this petition. We were in our right to stand up for what was ours.

All you other forum members that are getting a laugh at this, don't scoff at us or look down on us as if we were the redheaded step child. You would have done the same for your beloved cars if they had come into your house and bashed on one. And if you wouldn't have, then you are a disgrace as an owner of your car. If you are passionate about your car, prove it. Don't clown on others for doing exactly what should have been done.
 
If I scoff or laugh it is because no one has put forth any evidence as to where in that video EA bashes a DSM. You all look like a bunch of schizo mental patients thinking that EA bashed the DSM platform. If you were presented with a DSM and an exotic car and you choose to drive the DSM then you are insane. Period. Why don't you all write a bunch of BS and try to make DSM a religion, because what you are making this sound like is that owning a DSM and being into them is a religion or belief system. It is whiny to boycott this. Just don't buy the game. No one wants to hear whining.
 
I DO love my car and defend it.. if i was offered to trade my car for something better, would i take it?
Honestly.. i really don't think so. and IF in any time in my life i was giving the choice to pick any car i wanted.. i would just be damn grateful for ANYTHING i Got!

i Wouldn't waste my money on a car that cost me four years of my yearly income.. nor would i really want to own one due to that fact they aren't cheap to maintain, then insurance, and the way people would mostly change around me tyring to become my "friend"!!

and i protest cause i love my car and put alot of time and effort into it!
If you don't like that fact that i have the freedom to do so then move to north korea or the like and see how much your thought on things will change!! Be Glad you dont have to put up with what they do!

The only way to stay free is to practice our right... and thats what we're doing!


and as for hondas... i don't hate on them.. they are great cars.. its just most owner talks soooo highly of them its funny.. or some kid gets one for his first car and throws some rediculous shit on it... it has no other purpose but to be laughed at!! And that goes for ANYCAR.. DSM's included! I make fun of any car that someone destroys with what the think in their heads car cool!!
 
Practicing insanity. Where is the DSM bashing in that video?..I still ask.
 
Practicing insanity?? haha Childish.. and everyone wonders why this nations is turning to shit!
Ingeneral... i will practice my rights anyway i can!
Thats why im "free" but as time passes and the young aren't tought how to do this, we keep lossing more and more of our rights!

Blame TSA's insane patdowns for "our safety" haha joke... why does this stuff keep getting stricter??

Im Using these as an example to explain that i will stand up for what i believe in and most Americans are becoming more stupid and not underingstanding its our right to do so!

His is bashing the car in the ad.. its CLEARLY SEEN.. he might not specificly say, "im not driving that DSM!" but you know the intent of it! your just to damn hardheaded to see that!

Now can we drop this arguement and move on with life??
Let us protest what we wouldn't like and ill do the same for you!
Opinions are all different!
 
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