Dumbest things you've heard a DSMer say? :)

[Chaosweaver]

i was at a car show a few months ago, i started looking at a total riced out 2g. Within the first two minutes of looking the kid who owns it walks up, and proudly says tell me what cha see, and ill tell you what ya dont see. so i start naming off some really COOL mods like a painted valve cover, and sweet AIR FILTER. he then says, now what ya dont see...bosch platnium spark plugs!!!i started to laugh and walked awat

I'll tell you what I don't see, correct grammar...

 

[TSi Kid]

I'll tell you what I don't see, correct grammar...

haha can't stop laughing

 

[volkerding95GSX]

I'll tell ya one of the smartest things I've heard a dsmer say:

Fast, Reliable, Cheap.. CHOOSE 2

think about which one you chose to give up.

 

[dsmdeliveryboy]

This clown from AWD Motorsports thinks you can tune to VTA to the atmosphere on the stock MAS
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
I'm kaosracing386 he is ILikeReallyBigButts

 

[Chaosweaver]

I see they're letting people with down syndrome tune now... That's never good...

 

[jaycemocapaldi]

that kid is the reason why i will only let english touch my car! anybody else i can't really trust! who wants to go to a shop about to tune your car hearing. "you can tune for VTA with a stock MAS"

 

[the_mork]

Disclaimer - didn't watch the video.

That said English is fairly well respected and I expect that when saying things like that they usually qualify their statements by including that it isn't probably the best thing to do BUT many people insist that they want a VTA bov despite the best efforts of many to inform them of the harms. As such it makes sense for a tuner to let insistent clients know that the harms of VTA bovs can be mitigated and take their money for the extra time required. A company has a moral responsibility IMO to attempt to steer customers toward the best available solutions but selling a different product (in this case a tune for mitigating poor driveability) if the customer insists is not immoral and good business sense. Besides it used to not be uncommon for people to make the trade-off of VTA bov driveability in order to have a high volume/high pressure handling bov (such as Tial) but now that GM MAF integration is easier and SD setups are fairly common this trade-off can usually be avoided.

TL;DR: Venting is still very bad but I made a small defense of English without watching the video.

 

[RadDsm]

that kid is the reason why i will only let english touch my car!

Not me. It's tough to want to take my car to a place who says a 16g will make more power than an hx-35.

 

[dsmdeliveryboy]

Not me. It's tough to want to take my car to a place who says a 16g will make more power than an hx-35.

They did make a car go down the track faster than a hx with technically a 16g, but it was a auto. Who knows what a HX would do with a auto tranny..

 

[RadDsm]

They did make a car go down the track faster than a hx with technically a 16g, but it was a auto. Who knows what a HX would do with a auto tranny..

In their shop car.

Get a shop to build a 2.3l auto 2600lb car like theirs and see what a 60lb/min turbo will do.

 

[MY1GDSM]

Not me. It's tough to want to take my car to a place who says a 16g will make more power than an hx-35.

Looks above looks at title of thread

Do you even have any first hand expireance with a holset? Or are you sack riding for the fun of it?

In their shop car.

Get a shop to build a 2.3l auto 2600lb car like theirs and see what a 60lb/min turbo will do.

Shop car? what exactly does that mean?

In any event... .
You do realize when the Little auto was running an actual Evo 3 16g(not a hta68)and it had a Stock motor & Trans with just Cams right? not to mention no Intercooler...

So you want to compare a 56mm turbo that flows "60lb/min" to a 48mm turbo ?
Ok, so I let do this

Here is the fastest Hx35 powered dsm With a built motor and most other's are slower...
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And here is a video of the little auto the way it use to be...Stock motor

It's needless to say the times an traps it has done with a a FMIC 2.3 and the HTA68
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You can come to your own conclusion about why someone might say what they do... .

I'm guessing an I don't like to make assumptions but I'd say it's pretty safe to say theirs a reason they have said what they have, most likely it had to with their exiperinces with them...

All in all, who cares? I would hope most people would have enough sense to base their opinion about a shop on more then what someone thinks about a turboand on something more like the quality of their work...

Really all this comes down to is it's not the size of the turbo anyway theirs alot more to making power or getting good et's then just that...

Also I Think you know, I have no reason to say anything either way about their shop since I do all my own work... .

 

[RadDsm]

Sackriding? If you look at my profile, I run a 16g, not a Holset.
No one ever mentioned anything about which runs a faster E.T.

In any event... .
You do realize when the Little auto was running an actual Evo 3 16g(not a hta68)and it had a Stock motor & Trans with just Cams right? not to mention no Intercooler...

Well, there is a bit more to it. E98 with 2000cc of 100% meth, I'd take that over an intercooler if it made sense in a DD.

What is the most power made with a 16g, 499whp? More power has been made with an HX-35, which is the whole point I made with my other thread. Not, who can run the fastest time.

This is just 26psi, and the first video I found with a quick search.
YouTube - 500whp dsm hx35

 

[MY1GDSM]

Sackriding? If you look at my profile, I run a 16g, not a Holset.
No one ever mentioned anything about which runs a faster E.T.

Well, there is a bit more to it. E98 with 2000cc of 100% meth, I'd take that over an intercooler if it
made sense in a DD.

This is just 26psi, and the first video I found with a quick search.

You said it was a built motor... yet it wasn't... .

And? you act like it's a secret? also why wouldn't it make sence? theirs plenty of hot pipe cars from the factory as long as your meth works when it's suposse to and your not hitting your rev limit while spraying you'll be fine.

They didn't show anywhere in that video how much power it made... .besides who cares if someone says a car makes 500hp if it only runs a 12's?

 

[RadDsm]

You said it was a built motor... yet it wasn't... .

And? you act like it's a secret? also why wouldn't it make sence? theirs plenty of hot pipe cars from the factory as long as your meth works when it's suposse to and your not hitting your rev limit while spraying you'll be fine.

They didn't show anywhere in that video how much power it made... .besides who cares if someone says a car makes 500hp if it only runs a 12's?

Yep, I was wrong on the built motor. I don't keep up on it that much. It isn't a secret, but don't you know that meth and e98 is going to be better than a FMIC? It is.

Who cares? When a potential customer calls in (not me btw, but someone local) to get an opinion on what turbos will suit his hp goals, and he's told that a 16g will make more hp than an hx-35 on a car with all supporting mods for both, that is quite ridiculous.

Not everyone builds a car to go in a straight line.

 

[MY1GDSM]

Cooler temps a better Peirod... .

Whoever it was should be asking what will make their car faster not what will net more Hp regardless...
Just because one turbo could make more Hp. doesn't mean in some application it's the best choice.

if I was auto xing (among other things) a car I would take the spool of a 16g over the hx... .Think usable power

 

[RadDsm]

I'll agree with you there, and leave it at that.
I wasn't looking to make or start an argument.

 

[1991GSXAWD]

^ This is getting way off topic

Anyways, I was talking to a friend at a car meet about my current upgrades and how I got me a Holset turbo from a garbage truck ! A kid that was standing by looked at me and said; "Why would you want your car to be so slow?" I said to him that the car would be in a sleeper mode He looked at me like this>WTF

 

[jaycemocapaldi]

Not me. It's tough to want to take my car to a place who says a 16g will make more power than an hx-35.

Well they did make a 16g out run a Holset. it was Auto X, but they still did. any time i am in there though, they are always hot on the subject of jeff's gt35r auto 1gb. They actually are a great shop. Just my opinion though. I also side with you as well though.

Who cares? When a potential customer calls in (not me btw, but someone local) to get an opinion on what turbos will suit his hp goals, and he's told that a 16g will make more hp than an hx-35 on a car with all supporting mods for both, that is quite ridiculous.

Not everyone builds a car to go in a straight line.[/QUOTE]

I will have to say i do agree with this! They just do my tuning for me, and some other things if i have the extra money and really dont feel like doing it haha! As in a tranny swap!(satan in my opinion).

 

[dsmdeliveryboy]

^ This is getting way off topic

Anyways, I was talking to a friend at a car meet about my current upgrades and how I got me a Holset turbo from a garbage truck ! A kid that was standing by looked at me and said; "Why would you want your car to be so slow?" I said to him that the car would be in a sleeper mode He looked at me like this>WTF

You are right, it is completely off topic now. This is also another reason I probably will never run a HX, they are over-rated and everyone is running them/trying to run them now.

 

[91stocker]

You are right, it is completely off topic now. This is also another reason I probably will never run a HX, they are over-rated and everyone is running them/trying to run them now.

Id like to add this statement to the thread haha.
Overrated? How so? hx52 flows 90lb/min, spools 2k faster then anything that size, has a billet wheel, and compare the price of that to maybe a gt4202r

Besides why would you car what some dumbass ricer kid at some meet thought of your snail, specially when you rape him by 30 cars.

 

[dsm-onster]

FWD 2Gs and AWD 1Gs running mid 10s with the low flowing 8blade hx35. FULL weight 2Gs running over 133mph (that's 600whp!) *on pump gas 93* with the smaller turbine wheel and housing HY35... So yea I say that definately qualifies. But I don't believe he was being serious. . . I hope.

For the rest bickering about ET. ET is about driving, track prep, suspension setup, rubber, and holding your mouth right when shifting. Considering how long the 16g has been out on the market, the hx35 is doing VERY good in yielding 10 second cars, at a faster rate than 16g setups are doing it. After all, one can run convincing 10 second runs with a fwd 14b car too . So what is the use of ET when discussing any power adder?

No 16g setup has ever out put more power, in other words trapped higher per race weight, than an hx35 has done on several ocassions. Lucas English' experience with an 'hx35' was described by he himself on his e3 16g record thread (or the 68hta thread; I cannot remember). It was a bolton h1c, could have been a 45mm h1c or wh1 or big h1c. He gave up at a point where others had already far surpassed his results tuning in their back yards. There's also hx40 setups not tuned or set up by him that have done as well as his fp3065 setup in trap speeds with respect to weight (even an HY35 comes close). And we all know the fp30 turbine housing and the gt35r compressor wheel of the fp3065 flows as well as the hx40 compressor and t3 bep .70 ar housing. Regardless, that man KNOWS 16g turbos. . . Which is a good thing. And no he won't suggest anything he hasn't had success with. Which is a good thing for a 16g guy.

Back on topic. . .

 

[1gdsmftw]

dumbest thing ive heard a dsmer say? check out this thread! its awesome

 

[dsm-onster]

Old joke. It's already been said several times. Now you're guilty by association .

 

[1gdsmftw]

well then concider me part of the haywagon =]

 

[jaycemocapaldi]

Back on the stupid dsm'r quotes! has anyone ever heard of this guy on Youtube, he calls himself "bensbaby1000". this joke tried to tell me that in 2007 he had a "500hp fwd tsi" that ran 12.7. me and 432,536,432,400 others, told him that that could easily run a 10. he told me that now in 2010 with the same setup its faster. like they changed how they counted seconds or something?

Anyway here is a link to this tool bag. Just read some of these comments, that he posted on his own video's.

YouTube - 1g eclipse dsm 500hp bensbaby