2G Crankshaft timing plate?

[DiamonDSM98]

Problem Solved...the plate between the crank sprocket and balancer sprocket was on backwards. I looked at the other block and noticed a difference in the plate. Sure enough, as soon as I flipped it over everything lined up. Note to self, make sure to install the plate on the right way next time Thanks for the hints and help guy

You might have that litte shield that goes between the balance shaft belt/sprocket and the outer one for the timing belt on backwards...if it is, you'll be off on the inside mark, which will throw the outside mark off. Also, if that shield is backwards, it will chew the timing belt up pretty fast. Pull a spark plug, use a screwdriver as a "feeler" and get the motor as close to tdc compression on #1 cylinder as you can..watch the screwdriver go up and down..you'll come really close to absolute tdc doing it this way. THEN look at where your crank pulley is at..but if you're that far off, all the rest will line up fine, and the crank is off 30 degrees...if the shield isn't on backwards..the tdc trick will tell you
Dave

Let’s say I’m having this same issue. Would I be okay to make my own mark on the crank pulley of the plate was installed backwards ?

 

[Beemer]

I wouldn't. It can shred the timing belt. I know it's a pain to take everything else apart again to flip it over, but it needs to be done.

 

[pauleyman]

Let’s say I’m having this same issue. Would I be okay to make my own mark on the crank pulley of the plate was installed backwards ?

The plate is not flat and on your 2g there is a crank sensor that needs the plate to be lined up. You must flip it if its wrong. Additionally if you've cranked the motor over with this plate installed incorrectly you should check for bent valves.

 

[DiamonDSM98]

I wouldn't. It can shred the timing belt. I know it's a pain to take everything else apart again to flip it over, but it needs to be done.

I believe this is a 1g 7bolt, does that matter? The car starts and runs. I got it to TDC with screwdriver in the cylinder and made a mark on the harmonic balancer. Not gonna work?

 

[Beemer]

Keep a very close eye on your timing belt. (also remember that one bolt that, if ANY other timing cover bolt is installed in its place, it will gouge your timing belt) (Believe it's an oil pan side bolt...)
I doubt a 7 bolt timing cover nor the plate is any different. If it's running, it obviously worked. But watch that belt for any nicks or gouges. Even with the tensioners spot on, those timing belts still flop around a bit. But if it works, it works.

I made the same mistake even after racing 1G's since 1990. However, my engine was out on a stand so it didn't take all that long to fix. Plus I have a welded jig to hold the cams (lifesaver)

 

[DiamonDSM98]

I believe the shop installed the crankshaft timing plate backwards and I’m wondering if I can just flip the plate without removing the timing belt. Any insights ??? Please and thank you

 

[pauleyman]

I believe the shop installed the crankshaft timing plate backwards and I’m wondering if I can just flip the plate without removing the timing belt. Any insights ??? Please and thank you

No. This will require the belt to be removed.

If the plate is on backwards the car won't even start and likely will bend valves.

Edit...just noticed you had another thread on this already. Where is the mark if you put the #1 piston at TDC? You are using the piston closes to timing belt?