1G Cold Air Intake?

[Talon_For_Life]

Whats the easiest way to install Cold Air on a 1g 2.0L Turbo? (Specifically the HKS system) I've heard of a couple ways to do it but they both are vauge on how to keep the air flow sensor intact.

I need help on this...
TFL

 

[BlackbirdOfPrey]

WTF? Installing a cold air intake is unscrewing the clamp, and the one on your MAS (you got one that can use the stock MAS didn't you?) pulling the intake out, and clamping the new one on and the MAS on to the end of it. There isn't much to it..... If you can't install and intake without a guide, there are issues, unless you are forgetting to say something...

 

[Attack Eagle]

That would not be "cold AIR" blackie.

that's just an intake tube.

I'm assuming he is either refering to building the "cold air box" or to connecting a tube to blow cold air onto the filter and having the other end of the tube outside the engine bay ...

or both...


It's a make it yourself item,there are no cold air systems for turbos due to the MAS placement.

 

[sweet97]

In my case it was simple for 2 reasons. I have a FMIC and use a MAF-t in the blow thru position. My K&N sits where the stock side mount once was. It is VERY loud! Like a BOV that ios blowing off when under boost constantly! Iam a big proponent of a CAI. Until I could do it as simply as I did I might concentrate on the FMIC and MAFT. The MAFT as sold by www.fullthrottlespeed.com is a great, simple way to tune especially coupled with an EPROM ECU and DSMchip.
You can open the airbox if you have not and remove some of the blockage behind the headlight to allow some air to the filter. That is how I started and as mods accumulated the system I now use with a header wrapped HONDA!! 3"aluminum intake tube was a natural progression. mark

 

[QuienesTuPapa]

I don't understand the concept of a "cold air intake" on a turbo car. It doesn't make much sense to me. Why would you install a filter located somewhere to pull in cooler air, when its just going to get heated up when its compressed in the turbo anyway? Sure, you may be getting air a couple of degrees cooler by placing the filter somewhere else...but its not going to make THAT big of a difference once it passes the turbo. If you're trying to achieve getting cooler air in your motor, I would suggest that saving money to buy a front mount in conjunction with a cone filter would probably be a better option. The only thing a cool air kit is going to give you is better air flow...which can be achieved by throwing on the K&N filter for $60 or so. It made a world of difference for me. Anyway, just my two cents.

 

[RedGSX21]

Yah man it hes right it wont make much of a difference just save your money for a front mount.

 

[Erok]

cold air intake is pretty pointless, i mean you dont really care about the air pre turbo, its all about the air temp/density post turbo, between the turbo and the throttle body, you have to find a fmic that is very efficant with a low pressure drop the bigger the better for a street car cause it will prevent heatsoak, but drag cars arnt really that needed that big cause its just more pressure drop and they only run 1-2 runs which wont heatsoak a cooler in that 30 seconds of romping on it, so find something that will cool the air before it goes into the throttle body, not the turbo, even a sprayer set up or an ntercooler sprayer system or water injection to bring down temps before intake, anyways there are lots of ways to cool your air, cai isnt really one in my opinion what are we driving here, CIVICs
sleepygsx

 

[DSM90AWD]

I don't understand the concept of a "cold air intake" on a turbo car. It doesn't make much sense to me. Why would you install a filter located somewhere to pull in cooler air, when its just going to get heated up when its compressed in the turbo anyway? Sure, you may be getting air a couple of degrees cooler by placing the filter somewhere else...but its not going to make THAT big of a difference once it passes the turbo.

With the hood closed and the engine at operating temp take a temp reading at the filter (datalog or just a basic thermometer). Now measure the temperature of the outside air.

Hmm.. more than a few degrees difference me thinks

Still skeptical? Read this THREAD

 

[Attack Eagle]

I'll take 75 90 or ever 104 degree air in over 150+ degree air any day...


the denser the incoming charge the denser the output charge... and cooler...

fabbing up a cold air box and removing and oversizing the "snorkel" hole should get you the desired results.

 

[Burnett03]

I don't understand the concept of a "cold air intake" on a turbo car. It doesn't make much sense to me. Why would you install a filter located somewhere to pull in cooler air, when its just going to get heated up when its compressed in the turbo anyway? Sure, you may be getting air a couple of degrees cooler by placing the filter somewhere else...but its not going to make THAT big of a difference once it passes the turbo. .

here we go again.....

 

[BlackbirdOfPrey]

It's a make it yourself item,there are no cold air systems for turbos due to the MAS placement.

Hence the reason I assumed it was an intake and not a cold air intake. From most of my experience most people refer to intakes as cold air intake because thats the "catch phrase" whether or not it is an actual cold air intake. It would be nice if he was more specific.

 

[sweet97]

I will take cool air from star to finish. My shoulder has a nice burn mark because I leaned onto the hood prop a couple days ago after a drive. Even the loud sound of the air entering the filter lets me know that theirs is much less a restriction outside the engine bay, IT IS LOUD! If the air out of the turbo is typically 350* and I lower the intake air by 50-100* I would expect to see a significant outlet temp change. Just offering an option.
Have mine heat wrapped also. Mark

 

[GPTourer]

I don't understand the concept of a "cold air intake" on a turbo car.

Mitsubishi decided to put a cold air scoop at the edge of the hood for the Evo, so there must be something to it.

I was hoping someone would come up with a decent kit, seems like a good idea.

 

[clownface]

I think cold air intakes are well worth it on turbo cars, only thing i would be scared of is sucking up a bunch of water and hydrolocking. There are cold are intake kits out for our cars...i believe buschur racing sells a kit for 125 or something with a k&n filter, something like that

 

[DSM90AWD]

Mine cost a whopping $50: 3" Cone Filter ($25) + 90Degree AL Bend ($20) + FernCo 4" to 3" coupler ($5).

Only prol is you need a FMIC as I routed thru the UIP passage to where the SMIC was.

 

[90blacktsiawd]

I'm not going to get in on wether its worth it or not because frankly i don't know. But everyone seems to only be talking about going down through where the intercooler pipe used to go. I like this design alittle better. It's at the bottom of the page.


http://www.extremeintercoolers.com/1g_piping.htm

 

[Talon_For_Life]

So to answer the popular question I do mean Cold Air Intake which to my understanding means putting the air filter a ways away from any hot engine components (I.E. Headers, engine block etc) the idea being a cooler air in which to compress with and generally better air flow as well. What I don't understand are the tuners who say they have CAI and they just slapped a K&N air cone on it. I kinda go when I see this. This is not true CAI. I read the post about piping the CAI down through the SMIC. I am going to be purchasing a FMIC anyway so this would work to my advantage. The only question is if there is enough room.

I've heard alot of good things about CAI for non-turbo cars, now I wanna hear some good things for turbo cars. Does it really matter? I know after driving on the free way and pulling over to pop my hood its like a heat wave. Its hot under there!

TFL

 

[sweet97]

Just follow the links posted previously in this thread for more on CAI's. They can make a 30HP differnce as is shown by one who tested before and after at the track. 3MPH=30HP in "general". Our cars don't run better at night than at mid-day because the night air is "dark":>), it's cooler/denser. My K&N sits where the side mount once was. Even though my car is AWD I do not take it offroad and have never had it hydrolock, though if the water were a foot deep it probably would. Actually my filter is oiled and have not had rain cause anything but make the air even denser and run better.
The sound of my CAI is quite noticeable, just like the BOV only constant above 5 psi, LOUD!
I have read of Mustangs netting 35HP with a CAI, not the restrictive factory inlets. A stock air can gets air from under the fender, NOT from the hot underhood air. Simple enough to fab a water shield if you drive in hours of rain on a regular basis. I make cleaning and oiling my K&N part of regular maintainence. CAI adds power, allowing running a leaner mix due to the denser air. Best bang for the buck. Mark

 

[Attack Eagle]

mixtuyre stays the same, but denser cooler air = more gas and air per cylinder event