Caused By: Defective Rotor failed broken cracked disc disk brake

[steve-o_95_GST]

Does anyone know if he ended up getting another car and if he is still around?

 

[Xenzaka]

Incredible, from looking at all the damage, it surely is good to hear no one was hurt!

 

[Cheshire]

Hey all.... , I never knew this post was still going...Im the one that was in that car, and yes, I am sueing the asses off those guys. I have already had surgery to fix my shoulder and I might need to get a partial knee replacement. Nothing was broken in the accident, so the hospital let us go almost immediately. And yes, I am getting another one of those cars, except this one will be stronger, lighter and faster then the one i crashed...I guess I never really learn.

 

[kottyking]

if there are zero reasons, why do so many race cars, high performance cars ect use them?

You answered your own question. Race cars and super cars use these style brakes because they are being used under extreme condition. They actually get hot enough to where there is cooling affect that actual does something. As for street cars your rotors are never going to get hot enough to even consider needed drilled rotors.

Good luck with everything Man!

 

[1gcrazy]

You answered your own question. Race cars and super cars use these style brakes because they are being used under extreme condition. They actually get hot enough to where there is cooling affect that actual does something. As for street cars your rotors are never going to get hot enough to even consider needed drilled rotors.

Then uh...why do people have a problem with warped rotors? You think that happens because of your aftermarket shift knob?

 

[wannyGSX]

Please don't take him for a moron w/ your smart ass remarks about shift knobs. I go to school at UTI w/ kotty and me and my teacher were having this discussion in class yesterday. Rotors warp over time. a long time. Trust me, I didn't believe this at first either but my teacher proved us wrong.

 

[kottyking]

I was just going to ask if it was a cross drilled rotor. I've been telling people for years not to run them, maybe this will get it through their heads.

Exactly.

 

[1gcrazy]

Please don't take him for a moron w/ your smart ass remarks about shift knobs. I go to school at UTI w/ kotty and me and my teacher were having this discussion in class yesterday. Rotors warp over time. a long time. Trust me, I didn't believe this at first either but my teacher proved us wrong.

My moms durango R/T warped the rotors within 5k miles. You'd have to have some pretty hard proof to change my opinion. I can't imagine that keeping that rotor a little bit cooler wouldn't help out. I hear the pad holds the heat on the rotor and the rotor warps...after a hard brake of coarse.

 

[kottyking]

So why isn't everybody having to replace their rotors at 5 thousand miles? hmmmmm sounds a little fishy. Obviously something isnt right that your mommys rotors are warping in 5k miles.

 

[kottyking]

o yea maybe she should get some cross drilled rotors that would take away all her problems and they would last way longer.......... or maybe her shift knob is causing it I don't know. what would I know anyways....

 

[1gcrazy]

o yea maybe she should get some cross drilled rotors that would take away all her problems and they would last way longer.......... or maybe her shift knob is causing it I don't know. what would I know anyways....

Haha I thought the shift knob comment was funny. Chill out man i'm not trying to pick a fight. Basically I think our arguement is pointless without proof and we kinda highjacked the thread. If yall find some proof then i'd love to check it out. Otherwise i'll just keep on thinking what i think and yall do the same sound good? Great.

 

[kottyking]

sounds good. back on topic.

 

[DSMJim]

On a Porsche for example, the rotors are cast with the holes in the disc so they go through only the vented parts of the disc (the hollow center). They are not drilled after being cast and ground down into a flat surface. This is why you never see them crack on a Porsche or break etc. They are also $300 a rotor, trust me I priced them out... (I own a Boxster)

 

[kottyking]

Yep exactly. The problem comes when they are drilled AFTER the process of them being made. Not safe at all.

 

[Cheshire]

I guess the moral of this story is to research your rotors BEFORE you buy....most companys will tell you if they are machined after the fact, or if they are moulded that way.

Either way, IF i do decide to get them again, I will make sure i dont go with cheaper ones...cause in the end, it just wasnt worth it

 

[Knoob]

ouchhhhhhh

 

[diablos991]

That is awsome that everybody made it out alright. He definitely has somebody on his side.

 

[kottyking]

I guess the moral of this story is to research your rotors BEFORE you buy....most companys will tell you if they are machined after the fact, or if they are moulded that way.

Either way, IF i do decide to get them again, I will make sure i dont go with cheaper ones...cause in the end, it just wasnt worth it

Thats the best advice a guy could give. Especially when your dealing w/ brakes. Any word on the legal part of this mess? Please put this company out of business.

 

[G9S1X]

Damn I used to run roto-techs for a few months and they warped pretty badly (performed like ass even since the first day I got them). Im now running Brembo (cross drilled) Had to get on them pretty hard a few times and they still look like they haven't been used even after 3 months of use

Glad you and you'r girl are ok, that musta been hell of a ride through that grassy field

 

[Thomas91169]

So why isn't everybody having to replace their rotors at 5 thousand miles? hmmmmm sounds a little fishy. Obviously something isnt right that your mommys rotors are warping in 5k miles.

cause not everyone drives a 5000lb SUV...........

our tahoe goes through brakes almost every 6 months.

i WOULD trust a set of brembo cross drilled/slotted rotors over a no-namer. while most feel there is no need for it, you try slowing down from 150 to 80 relatively fast and see how fast your brakes fade out. cross drilled and/or slotted can decrease brake fade under harsh conditions like that. and not even necessarily high speed, say youre cruising along at 75 and all of a sudden BOOM pile up on the freeway, with less fade youre going to stop sooner. doesnt take some big time UTI ASE cert to know that.

i used a set of brembo cross drilled/slotteds on my 94 tbird. i used to go through rotors pretty often cause its a heavier car and youre putting more heat and stress. got a set of the brembo's and i still have them 3 years later. i took them in to get turned and the guy said there wasnt much taken off and that they were pretty new. told him they were on the car for 2 years. guy shit bricks.

 

[suicidal2af]

You answered your own question. Race cars and super cars use these style brakes because they are being used under extreme condition. They actually get hot enough to where there is cooling affect that actual does something. As for street cars your rotors are never going to get hot enough to even consider needed drilled rotors.

Good luck with everything Man!

You lost your credibility from the start. By this logic, nobody would ever experience brake fade -- it's just not possible on a street car, right?

Unfortunately, we all know this is false. There's a couple of things we can do to prevent fade. We can run pads that will retain their friction at a higher temperature, but in doing this we limit how well it will function at lower temperatures, which a majority of daily driving will see. Or, alternately, we can increase the ability of the rotors to dissipate heat. This means more surface area. How can we do this? Change a solid disc to a vented disc; increase rotor diameter; or create more surfaces(drilling)

 

[Dj_Diablo]

All you guys arguing about warped rotors and such, go read this whitepaper from StopTech:
http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp_warped_brakedisk.shtml

 

[prostreetdsmx1]

again, don't go cheap on something that your and others life depend on!

 

[ali]

wow.

 

["G"]

Just don't use drilled rotors, there is absolutely zero reason for them.

Exactly ^^ make sure the holes are cast in to the design like brembos. Not manually drilled. Drilling adds places where stress can concentrate and cause cracks to form. At a micro level these tiny surface defects allow the stress to concentrate , forming slip planes and micro cracks called stress risers.

What brand were these rotors that failed?