Big 16g Stock boost?

[Lucas03es]

What is the stock boost pressure on a big 16g?

 

[-red97rum-]

The same as a stock turbo. The boost level will remain the same unless you are using something to control it, like a manual boost controller, for example. The 16g will flow a little more air at the same boost level giving you more power.

 

[wkmitsu]

What is the stock boost pressure on a big 16g?

Are you talking about stock wastegate pressure, or stock pressure when the turbo is hooked up to the stock boost control solenoid?

 

[Lucas03es]

Well idk what the stock pressure is. the BCS is not hooked up, idk what the stock boost is, because the car didn't even run when I got it.

 

[beihl304]

the wastegate pressure is about 11 or 12 which is stock boost pressure

 

[wkmitsu]

Well idk what the stock pressure is. the BCS is not hooked up, idk what the stock boost is, because the car didn't even run when I got it.

Ok, well the stock wastegate pressure is about 9-10 psi. The boost when hooked up to the BCS is going to be the same as the stock boost, about 11-12 psi.

 

[JusMX141]

The 16g will flow a little more air at the same boost level giving you more power.

True, but it's also a little laggier than the stock turbo. Some folks bolt an Evo III 16G on and are disappointed that it actually feels slower than a 14B or T25 at the same stock boost level because the turbine is, indeed, turning at a slower speed.

As you keep going larger with the turbo size, more and more boost is required to keep the compressor efficient. Say you're running a 20G at 20psi and seeing 37 lb/min of airflow then you decide to upgrade to a GT35R. At the same boost level, it may only move close to the same airflow as the 20G....but it will do so at a higher engine RPM and slower turbine speed, making the air charge cooler and more-usable meaning you can run leaner AFR's and more-aggressive timing to extract power from the setup. You may also notice that the 35R doesn't "hit" like the 20G at the same boost level as a result of the slower power delivery.

 

[1998dsm]

So my engine is going out to get built soon, I have an eBay 16g can I run it on stock fuel injectors, fuel pump, and boost for break in? Searched but could not find a result.
THANKS FOR ANY INPUT!

 

[TopGun8818]

So my engine is going out to get built soon, I have an eBay 16g can I run it on stock fuel injectors, fuel pump, and boost for break in? Searched but could not find a result.
THANKS FOR ANY INPUT!

Not to rip on you but you are building your engine and adding an E-bay turbo? Do it right man - an engine build cost too much money to put a crappy ebay turbo and risk damaging your freshly built engine. Just save the extra cash and buy a legit one. If you don't have the funds; pick up a used 14b while you save up. I think what separates us DSM'ers from the Honda people is that we don't cross the el cheap-o line as often as they do.

 

[TSI_93]

I definitely wouldn't put a ebay junk turbo on a new engine just to have to drop the oil pan to fish out pieces of the thrust washer in a few hundred miles.

 

[1998dsm]

very good point, thanks for that, i didn't know those cheap turbos would fall apart like that(still learning). plus i've read a lot of good things about the 14b's, i take those are good for the break in process? and will the car run okay with 272's and a 14b?

 

[PFC_CiarlilloM]

@1998dsm Check the marketplace out, I'm sure you'll find a deal on either a 14b, or a MHI 16g.

Like everyone else stated, if you keep your boost to 11-12 psi the stock fuel system will hold up.

 

[1998dsm]

Yeah I've found cheap 14b's on criagslist around my area, I'll just junk mine, cause I've waited to long to have my car running, And do not want a new motor to blow! But back to the my question I want to break the motor in properly, and get the cams installed while it is at the machine shop, will it run right without a tune with 272's and a 14b or do I need link for a tune to run those cams?

 

[TopGun8818]

Yeah I've found cheap 14b's on criagslist around my area, I'll just junk mine, cause I've waited to long to have my car running, And do not want a new motor to blow! But back to the my question I want to break the motor in properly, and get the cams installed while it is at the machine shop, will it run right without a tune with 272's and a 14b or do I need link for a tune to run those cams?

You'll need a tune period. Running aftermarket cams requires that you tune the car. Cams aren't very hard to swap out in our cars (dohc) - just put the stocks on until you save up for all the supporting mods (fuel injectors, fuel computer, fuel pump etc. Again, do it once and do it right.

 

[Diamond Star Werks]

Yeah I've found cheap 14b's on criagslist around my area, I'll just junk mine, cause I've waited to long to have my car running, And do not want a new motor to blow! But back to the my question I want to break the motor in properly, and get the cams installed while it is at the machine shop, will it run right without a tune with 272's and a 14b or do I need link for a tune to run those cams?

What brand of cams?

 

[Terrance33]

Old thread, but don't want to start a new one. Anybody know the wastegate spring pressure on a 14b? Is it the same as the 16g?

 

[Cdc1221]

stock spring pressure should be in the neighborhood of 11-12 psi, which is perfectly fine with a 14b on a stock 2g with stock fuel pump/injectors

 

[Diamond Star Werks]

Old thread, but don't want to start a new one. Anybody know the wastegate spring pressure on a 14b? Is it the same as the 16g?

For a brand new wastegate, 12_14, on an old one 12 or less. Yes they are the same.

 

[Terrance33]

Ok thanks.

 

[vince6756]

Whose got the strongest internal wastegate actuator? 20g, T28? Some other brand?

 

[ganuv]

hey guys . was just wondering...im running a 16g on stock fuel pump and stock injectore with a boost controoler on a 2g 6bolt swap, when I open the b controller it jumps to 14 15 psi , and engine doesn't cut, on the other hand ..when I had the 14b engine use to cut around the same psi, was wondering why? and can I run the 560s injectors on the 2g stock fuel pump with the 16g?

 

[John_M93]

IS there a diagram on how to hook up the boost control to the big 16

 

[Vegas Smith]

IS there a diagram on how to hook up the boost control to the big 16

Yes.

 

[boostdawd]

IS there a diagram on how to hook up the boost control to the big 16

Do a quick search here. U will get tons of information. It's been covered many times. Welcome to the site!

 

[93AWDDSM]

http://www.dsmtuners.com/threads/best-way-to-install-a-mbc.237982/