Bearing fit issue

[kt239]

Ok, so is there any way to mix and match since I'll have the bearings for both? It seems as if it worked once before. Or should I go and get the correct cap?

 

[squeak104]

If it were me I would get the correct girdle. But I've also never heard of anyone mixing and matching let alone did I think it could be done without problems.

 

[kt239]

I guess my logic on it is if it was done in late 97+ vehicles and I have the right bearings for the block and the cap then in a sense it should be good? It did hold up in the car before I got it minus the lack of care given to basic engine needs (being oil and coolant). There was less than a gallon of coolant in the whole system and about 2 maybe 3 quarts of pure black oil keeping this thing alive, so I think the lack of attention is the culprit more so then the mix and match. Considering it was align honed and the bearings are correct and split thrust bearings are on late 97+ dsms I don't think it would be an issue, but I may be wrong.

 

[BogusSVO]

ok, from what I understand, you have the saddle bearing thrust, that is wr for your app.

In one pic you show 2 thrust washers and a main bearing, that is the set you need.

you will not have thrust washers on the cap girdle side.

the reason the cap is wider on the girdle is to lock the thrust washers in place and keep them from moving/spining.

 

[kt239]

Ok so I do indeed have the wrong bearings. I did order the new set so hoping their in the next few days. I knew this motor wasn't original to this car I just had a feeling. But it's all coming together now thanks to everyone for their input. Updates when I get the new set in.

 

[kt239]

Update! Just got the new bearing kit in and of course there is a question or two. Question one is do I essentially have just the center bearing on the block side that gets the washers and the rest do not get them? Also what is the orientation of the washer the grooves in or out?

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[BogusSVO]

in the pic you are holding a "thrust washer" if you look at your crank, there is only one place that it will fit, #3 main, it has the thrust face.

the thrust washers fit on the side of the main, block side.

all the block main jouranls will get the bearing, with the oil pass hole.

the girdle will get the bearings with out the hole. * note* sometimes bearings will have oil hole in both the upper (block) and lower (girdle/caps)

 

[kt239]

Thanks for the reply, I got the crank in and all cap studs torqued to arp specs. Going to buy a ring compressor tomorrow if I can't borrow one tonight and wrap up the bottom end here. I'm sure I'll have more questions as things proceed .

 

[BogusSVO]

cool...

I hope you put the side of the thrust washer with the grooves in it facing the crank

 

[kt239]

I indeed did . I referenced back to the one piece bearing I had and saw those grooves out so I followed suite.

 

[BogusSVO]

cool beans!