Basic MAFT Questions [merged] GM MAF Translator

[gotboost55]

Basic MAFT Questions
What is it?
What does it do?
Where does it go?
Where does the xxxx color wire go?
Can I vent with a MAFT?
What MAF can I use?
Can I use a 2g MAFT with a 1g?
Can I use a 1g MAFT with a 2g?

Sorry guys !but am not really sure about this one.What does the MAFT really do and is it a good buy?thanks

 

[NeOzz1]

I just ment is that whati should use to tune along with the MAFT?

 

[IHeartTurbo]

a wideband o2 yes

If I was you, I'd get a pocketlogger. That's what I'm doing.

 

[NeOzz1]

Pocket loggers are expensive aren't they? What does a pockt logger tell me that I would need to adjust?

What are the goods and bads of the MAFT?

 

[TurBoGs-T]

Originally posted by NeOzz1
I just ment is that whati should use to tune along with the MAFT?

You can't physically tune with the MAFT. The MAFT is what measures the air. The SAFC is the minimum requirement for tuning, there are more expensive ones but the SAFC is what you actually use to manipulate your air sensor.

 

[NeOzz1]

I thought I read that you could adjust air with the MAFT

 

[DSMKevan]

No pocketloggers arent. But, the pocketlogger system, a good palm, and a SAFC will run you around $600. I would suggest looking into the ECU + . Its basically a SAFC, and datalogger built into one. You can use a palm or a PC too.

http://www.ecuplus.com/

pocketlogger: www.pocketlogger.com

Im also wondering why you need to use a GM MAF? Isnt the stock one ok, or does it become innacurate?

 

[90AWDTalon]

Originally posted by TurBoGs-T
No you can't vent with it on the intake. The only way you can vent is if you are reading air AFTER the BOV. It is impossible to tune without an SAFC, that is what you use to make the actual adjustments. The A/F gauge is just to read and not control anything. Get most of your major mods first before you worry about tuning cause most of your major mods will change everything.

You shouldn't respond when you don't know what your talking about.

The MAFT has built in tunning and you do not need an SAFC to tune.

 

[TurBoGs-T]

Originally posted by NeOzz1
I thought I read that you could adjust air with the MAFT

Nope. The SAFC does. The MAFT is used to Translate the GM MAF's readings so the car can recognize it.

 

[NeOzz1]

Like the way the ECU plus sunds thanks for the info on that.

 

[90AWDTalon]

Originally posted by TurBoGs-T
Nope. The SAFC does. The MAFT is used to Translate the GM MAF's readings so the car can recognize it.

Quit giving inaccurate information. The MAFT does alow you to tune.

 

[IHeartTurbo]

Originally posted by TurBoGs-T
Nope. The SAFC does. The MAFT is used to Translate the GM MAF's readings so the car can recognize it.

Dude, you obviously don't know. You CAN tune with an MAFT.

 

[TurBoGs-T]

:laugh: I just saw a guy tuning his GM MAF Today with a SAFC.

 

[NeOzz1]

At DSMparts.com under the MAFT it says you can use it for tuning and may possibly eliminate the need for an SAFC.

 

[IHeartTurbo]

Taken directly from Ramchargers, the people that make the translator.

The MAF Translator will allow the use of a GM MAF sensor on the 1G Talon and Eclipse turbo cars. This low restriction unit will drasticly improve spool up time and air flow. The Translator will also allow for full fuel control so that you may tune your car for changing conditions or modifications. You may also compensate for different injector sizes when you reach the time for an upgrade. Simple plug in installation plus 1 wire tap is all you will have to do. A 3 sensor, cone filter and the Translator can be installed in about 20 minutes on the stock flex hose in the stock location. Fuel tuning has never been easier and with this installed you should see a significant performance improvment. We have the sensors, filters, silcone transition hoses and whatever you may need to complete the installation. If you have questions you may call us toll free at 888 293 7267 or send an email question to us at DSM HELP The translator comes with complete instructions on how to get started using it. When installed on a 1G car the Translator allows you to chose from a 3 sensor from the Impalla SS or the 3.5 sensor from the LS1 F-Body.

http://www.ramchargers.com/cgi-bin/...rfnbr=29841&cgmenbr=541&cat1=29839&cat2=29840
Go there and click on More Info.

 

[NeOzz1]

Thanks for all the info but i would still like to know what the MAFT does for me.

 

[TurBoGs-T]

Originally posted by 90AWDTalon
Quit giving inaccurate information. The MAFT does alow you to tune.

I'm giving information that was given to me from a local shop. Stop cryin . If i'm wrong i'm wrong. I only know what i'm told, if i was told wrong how would i know it was wrong i trusted what they told me.

 

[IHeartTurbo]

Originally posted by TurBoGs-T
I'm giving information that was given to me from a local shop. Stop cryin like a little bi***. If i'm wrong i'm wrong. I only know what i'm told, if i was told wrong how would i know it was wrong i trusted what they told me.

Look at my last post.

 

[TurBoGs-T]

Thanks IHT for giving me the information and not havin a piss fit. Guess they were just tryin go sell me a SAFC.

 

[90AWDTalon]

Originally posted by TurBoGs-T
:laugh: I just saw a guy tuning his GM MAF Today with a SAFC.

With the early version's of the MAFT the SAFC had more tunning points than the MAFT, some people still used the SAFC with the MAFT to fine tune. There was no need to get an SAFC if you already had a MAFT, but if you had an SAFC before getting the MAFT, some people may decide to keep using them instead. I believe with the newer versions of the MAFT that it has many more tunning points.

 

[IHeartTurbo]

Yup, the new version allows for tuning in 5% increments I believe.

 

[TurBoGs-T]

Originally posted by 90AWDTalon
With the early version's of the MAFT the SAFC had more tunning points than the MAFT, some people still used the SAFC with the MAFT to fine tune. There was no need to get an SAFC if you already had a MAFT, but if you had an SAFC before getting the MAFT, some people may decide to keep using them instead. I believe with the newer versions of the MAFT that it has many more tunning points.

It's all good man. Thanks for the info. The guy sat in my face and told me that the only thing the MAFT does is basically make a GM Maf compatable with our car's CPU.

 

[ARTSUPRA]

Because it's pretty:laugh:

 

[midnght]

Alot of guys get it to do a broad tune of fuel. Then with an S-AFC they tune it alittle more accurately. You can use it for tuning, but it is "BEST" used in conjunction with an S-AFC II. Only reason I say the S-AFC II is because it has more points than the first S-AFC.


*These are from all the post I have read. I know it can be used alone, but many of the shops have recommended even the first S-AFC to help with the tuning*

 

[gixrman]

You can use both you will need the MAFT to set correction for larger injectors. Why do you need it? you don't but it lets your motor breath alittle easier and it is not a big as the stock shoe box sized POS. With that said more power is available. Easy breathing=more power. I use both a MAFT/GM MAS and the AFC because the MAFT is mounted in the engine compartment and is a pain in the ass when tuning to get out of the car pop the hood and make ajustments, plus I have the early version and the SAFC lets me fine tune.

 

[IHeartTurbo]

Originally posted by gixrman
the MAFT is mounted in the engine compartment and is a pain in the ass when tuning to get out of the car pop the hood and make ajustments,

You can buy an extension to put it inside the car.