B&M and clone short shifter 2nd gen eBay Megan [Merged 3-7]

[Defiant]

Ah, gravy. You can't do much better than the factory instructions:

http://www.roadraceengineering.com/instructions/bm-shortshifterinstructions.htm

If it takes you more than thirty minutes, it's because you're stopping to goof around too much, or fishing all the quarters out from under the console.

Adjust your parking brake lever while you're in there, too.

 

[ddimestalon]

Originally posted by Defiant
Ah, gravy. You can't do much better than the factory instructions:

http://www.roadraceengineering.com/instructions/bm-shortshifterinstructions.htm
goof around too much, or fishing all the quarters out from under the console.

for me its pennies

 

[myeclipseisnice]

ok i just got my 97 gst a couple days ago, now. i usually cut the rod on my other cars, so im thinking the same on this gst, what do u guys think? and how low should i cut it? thanks

 

[spoolup]

dont cut it, Just spend the 155 and get the B&M all others are junk, the B&M actually works. I am pretty sure most people here would agree and a search on B&M shifter will yeild positive proof. Just stay away frfom the cheap brands and for the love of DSMs, stay away from ghetto mods. "mod cheap mod twice"

 

[*97GS_Eclipse*]

I agree, cutting the shifter doesnt actually shorten the throw. Spend the money to get a real short shifter if you want one.


Luke

 

[Defiant]

A cutoff shifter lever won't shorten the throw, but it does shorten the distance you have to throw, while reducing your leverage.

But yeah, bite the bullet and get the B&M. They're drop-dead gorgeous, and although it's kind of a lot of money, they're just about worth it.

Swap out your transmission fluid to Pennzoil Synchromesh, too.

 

[Dieselboy]

Not to be an ass, but I would never put another drop of Pennzoil product in my car EVER again. Go with BG or GM synchromesh.

 

[dashtz69]

this is a liittle off subject, but where do you put this synchromesh in? And does it help with shifting? Mine is a little choppy from 2-3, and 3-4. Thanks a lot

 

[timmy]

It all depends on you . Do you want a shorter throw? then yes get the b&M. But if you like the shift points and want to make the shifter a lil shorter then cut it. I cut mine about 1.5 inches and looks great and works the balls to>>>>>

 

[Defiant]

Originally posted by Dieselboy
Not to be an ass, but I would never put another drop of Pennzoil product in my car EVER again. Go with BG or GM synchromesh.

You're not. But Pennzoil/Quaker State is the same product as GM- not similar, but the same. Has the GM part # on the bottle.
BG is also well thought of, it's a good product.

 

[mramc3]

I used Red line tranny fluid. in combo with shifter bushings and a fresh clutch bleed, the shifting isnt perfect but its smoother than I have ever had it

 

[GaRn]

cutting does shorten the throw.. all a short shifter does is extend the bottom half of the shifter... the same effect as cutting the top off, but you can only cut but so much definitly got with a new shifter..

 

[Defiant]

The DSM short-throw shifters also raise the pivot point for the fore-aft motion of the lever, making for the short throw. Cutting the upper lever will reduce how far your hand moves on a shift, but it doesn't actually affect the "throw" going on at either the shifter base or the transmission, granted it's a distinction without a lot of difference. B&Ms have two attachment points on the bottom of the arm, one for a 35% reduction (which feels like a LOT) and one for a 50% (which must make _everything_ else you drive feel like a '54 Crown schoolbus).
I've read repeatedly of the OBX and PaceSetter shifters needing machine work to fit, overshifting, and breaking. The B&M (at triple the price) hasn't been criticized.

 

[ProjectTalon130]

I'm glad this topic was brought up b/c i am about to install my B&M short throw shifter VERY soon and wanted to know what you all suggest on the throw reduction...should i go 35 or 50 percent??? its not seeing any track time or racing , but i will get on the car a little here and there (just cruising).

 

[GaRn]

Originally posted by Defiant
The DSM short-throw shifters also raise the pivot point for the fore-aft motion of the lever, making for the short throw. Cutting the upper lever will reduce how far your hand moves on a shift, but it doesn't actually affect the "throw" going on at either the shifter base or the transmission, granted it's a distinction without a lot of difference. B&Ms have two attachment points on the bottom of the arm, one for a 35% reduction (which feels like a LOT) and one for a 50% (which must make _everything_ else you drive feel like a '54 Crown schoolbus).
I've read repeatedly of the OBX and PaceSetter shifters needing machine work to fit, overshifting, and breaking. The B&M (at triple the price) hasn't been criticized.

yes i know this, but what you said makes no sense .. you said "cutting the upper lever will reduce how far your hand moves on a shift, but it doesnt actually affect the throw at either the shifter base or teh transmission".. i know, it effects the throw above that! thats what a short throw shifter does.. note: "short throw" it works either way, shortening the lenght above the pivot or extending the length below the pivot.. or both..

i would go ahead and try 50% throw and see how ya like it!

 

[azkikr10]

i cut about 2 inches off my shifter then welded the thread back on. i love it. i mainly did it because i couldnt find a shortshifter for a 1 g at the time. i have no regrets and it was free

 

[ProjectTalon130]

Just finished my B&M , took about an hour, most of that hour was being careful while taking hte aftermarket Head Unit out and the T.T. and trim (very fragile). Install was a peice of cake, i love how B&M tailors their instructions to work out just right on your car along with very good diagrams. I did go with the 50% throw, even without driving the car yet it feels MUCH better then before, 1st gear even seems like it won't be a problem getting into now....I love it!

 

[LightningGSX]

B&M and syncromesh are excellent products.

 

[Wobble]

penzoil synchromesh is good, ass good as the GM, as for a short throw, get the B&M, dont get that cheap OBX and other nonsense crap.. youll regret it.

 

[Wobble]

penzoil synchromesh is good, ass good as the GM, as for a short throw, get the B&M, dont get that cheap OBX and other nonsense crap.. youll regret it.

 

[97 GS-T Spyder]

I want to get a short throw shifter, but am having trouble deciding which brand to go with. I've heard a lot of pro-B&M comments in this thread, but what about Symborski?

 

[DSMSpyder99]

Originally posted by 97 GS-T Spyder
I want to get a short throw shifter, but am having trouble deciding which brand to go with. I've heard a lot of pro-B&M comments in this thread, but what about Symborski?

they are metal washer that make the shifter more percise and accurate

Symborski+B&M short shifter= best 5 speed

 

[azkikr10]

Symborski kit did nothing for me

 

[bzzzt]

i do have to say thats one thing i have noticed with my car since i've had it that i dont like, the throws are ridiculous, my primary vehicle is my s10... a pickup truck, and the shifts feel more like a "short throw" then my laser, everytime i shift in the laser i expect to hear bells/whistles and flashing "jackpot" lights

 

[Defiant]

Your S-10 shifter is going straight into the gearbox, not working some cables like the transmission's a damned marionette. You'll work long to try and get a DSM to feel close to that.... and close is as near as you'll get.