axle problem

[injection]

hello everyone i just did a tranny swap in my car i have a 95 gsx. i'm having a problem with getting the passenger side axle in. i get the axle to snap in but then i can just pull it right out of the tranny. after everything was done i took it for a test drive and it must have popped right out because gear oil was coming out, so i ordered a new axle for it and i got it to pop in and it kept pulling right out. then i got the axle to pop in again and i put everything together and it seemed like it was going to work cause i couldn't move the axle in and out and i drove it for like 40 miles and i got on it alittle bit and popped out again. has anyone had this problem before? also i've tried bending that clip on the axle to see if that works and still no good.

 

[JayRolla]

Did you bolt the bracket on the axle. They should just slid in and out like that, and when its bolted up it wont move. you sure you just didnt break the seal and its leaking making you think its popping out. The car wont move to well with it popping out.

 

[rubixphx]

Did you bolt the bracket on the axle. They should just slid in and out like that, and when its bolted up it wont move. you sure you just didnt break the seal and its leaking making you think its popping out. The car wont move to well with it popping out.

I agree with JayRolla about bolting the axle to the bracket, and having to slide in and out... definitly research on that bracket thing... that might just be the problem...

 

[injection]

thanks for the repsone.. but yea i bolted it in but thats the driver side that needs to be bolted in which is the half shaft side.. the passenger side is the one i'm having problems with. also i know it's not the seal unfortunitely because it would pull right back out once i snapped the axle in you can yank on it a few times and it comes right out normally you have to use a pry bar and pry on them to get them out but this one you yank on it 2 or 3 times and it pops right out... as stated you can definitely tell the splines aren't catching completely because it doesn't move correctly. i am lost and i have no idea what to do, i've had this car a month and i put 300 miles on it so far. i'm really getting discouraged.

 

[JayRolla]

Sorry man im confused, maybe someone else will jump in and help. I just did a swap and you are right you have to pry bar it out but thats because its been in there forever. Mine would slide in and out if i remember right. Once you bolt the strut in it should hold the axle in. Very confused on your problem. Do you have a Haynes manual?

 

[injection]

no i don't have one.. but the thing is it's not like i don't kow what i'm doing i've been a mechanic for 4 years and my father has been one for 28 years and we just don't know where to go with this... you're correct it was tight once everything was bolted in place and i thought i was good to go but all the sudden it just popped out again on me. i hate this car i wasted 10 grand on it.

 

[injection]

also i wanted to know if anyone knows of a place to buy a performance axle for the 95 gsx i've seen them on 1 site before but not for the 95 awd turbo

 

[FORMONTOYA]

I guess I'll ask the dumb question....How's the cir-clip on the tranny end of the axle? I see that you "bent" it to no avail. If it's to damaged it will allow the axle to pop out or even worse it could fall into the tranny. The inside portion of the spline in the diff has a groove that the cir-clip "snaps" into. That's why you have to "pry" the axle out. Maybe you might need to get a new one. They couldn't be that expensive.


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[Turbo Talon 111]

I would pull the seal out and look inside the tranny where the clip on the axel sits. shine a flashlight in there and try to see if there is anything obviously wrong inside there.
is it possible that you don't have it snapped in all the way?
those are the things i can think to try since you already replaced the axle. i assume you got a new clip along with the axle right?

 

[Turbo Talon 111]

here are a few differant options for 2g AWD axles
http://www.driveshaftshop.com/MitsuAWD.ivnu

 

[injection]

yea i've tried 2 new axles they both come with a new clip. i talked to a guy that rebuilds trannys and he told me there is nothing that could wear out in the differential to make the axle not seat correctly. as mentioned above the one guy said that he thought he could pull his axles out without a pry bar.. now my question is this.. it was a couple weeks for me being able to get the tranny, and when i first started my ball joints were good but from my using the pickle fork over and over to get the ball joints split they got worn and they have quite a bit of play. could the worn out ball joint be letting the tire move away from the axle causing it to pop out??? thanks guys.


also thanks for the link to them axles

 

[JayRolla]

I dont think the ball joints would do that because I did the same thing and shredded mine. The boots are completly gone and Ive been driving like that for about 6 months like that.

 

[injection]

well dang it.. your boots are shredded but do your ball joints have play in them? because my ball joints have alot of play in them. which is unsafe to drive because if one of them let go then my tire is going to fall off.

 

[injection]

hey a few days ago i posted a thread about my axles popping out. here is the thread post:

hello everyone i just did a tranny swap in my car i have a 95 gsx. i'm having a problem with getting the passenger side axle in. i get the axle to snap in but then i can just pull it right out of the tranny. after everything was done i took it for a test drive and it must have popped right out because gear oil was coming out, so i ordered a new axle for it and i got it to pop in and it kept pulling right out. then i got the axle to pop in again and i put everything together and it seemed like it was going to work cause i couldn't move the axle in and out and i drove it for like 40 miles and i got on it alittle bit and popped out again. has anyone had this problem before? also i've tried bending that clip on the axle to see if that works and still no good.


well later on i found that the ball joint had a lot of play in it and i replaced it thinking maybe it was kicking the tire out and popping the axle out. but it still pops out. do you people think the axle could possibly be too short and its causing it to pop out of the tranny. i've tried 2 new reman axles fron napa and they pop out, i've talked to 2 different tranny rebuilders and they said nothing could be causing the axle to pop out in the tranny itself cause i just replaced the tranny. i'm lost on this i'm sorry for posting another topic about it but i'm lost. so i'm thinking i might go to the dealership and order an axle cause i really have no other options left.

 

[eclipse_20g]

Sorry I cant help you out man. I just cant visualize how if the axle is in the tranny, and then inside the hub and everything is mounted back together correctly, how there would be enough room for the axle to just pop out. I take the axle is falling out of the transmission and not the hub, right?

 

[fourreGsixty3]

The awd axles are equal length hence there is no presence of TQ steer. The axles from napa, and likewise stores should be fine, I bought 2 from advanced auto for like 35$ each(discount due to I work for a shop and bought them through there) I put 26k miles on them this year, and I burned out, shifted at 7k rpm, and went WOT nearly 1/2 the time I drove those 26k miles. All that with no mishaps, perhaps you didnt instal it properly. Check the splines on the axle to make sure they aren't chipped, ect...Also this is wierd because there is so little room to put the axles out on my 1G with the wheels off, and unbolt the brake hub to pivot it far enough out of the way.

Dustin

 

[Auto RS T]

The awd axles are equal length hence there is no presence of TQ steer. The axles from napa, and likewise stores should be fine, I bought 2 from advanced auto for like 35$ each(discount due to I work for a shop and bought them through there) I put 26k miles on them this year, and I burned out, shifted at 7k rpm, and went WOT nearly 1/2 the time I drove those 26k miles. All that with no mishaps, perhaps you didnt instal it properly. Check the splines on the axle to make sure they aren't chipped, ect...Also this is wierd because there is so little room to put the axles out on my 1G with the wheels off, and unbolt the brake hub to pivot it far enough out of the way.

Dustin

Only 1g AWD rear axles are equal length, There are still two different length axles in the front, the drivers side bolts to the block, the passenger side does not.

Injection-Something else must be wrong with your suspension for the axles to keep popping out, If its not the axle I would look more into other things like control arm bushings. Isn't there two joints on a 2g, upper and lower?

 

[injection]

well the weird thing is when everything is bolted tight you can barely move the axle in and out which is a good thing but i mean normal in out movment it's very slight. the thing that makes me wonder is that when i installed the axle for the 100th time i noticed that once i push the hub against the axle and bolt it the wheel is slightly turned on that one side. yes it's popping out of the tranny side not the hub. the only other thing that i did with the car before i test drove it for the very first time is it lowered and the one side sat higher then the other, so i loosened up the one side and brought the strut even with the other side. other then evening out the suspension thats the only adjustment i made. somenoe also told me that i could have the motor pulled over too much to the one side, i don't see how that could be when the motor mounts don't have adjustments on it to move it from side to side. thanks for your input

 

[injection]

auto rst - i mentioned above that when i bought my car i noticed the driver side was lower then the passenger side (the car has a 1.5 inch drop) and when i brought it in and did the tranny swap i adjusted the driver side up so it would sit even with the other side. on mine i have 2 lower control arms i replaced the 1 because the ball joint was very bad and had alot of play, but the bushings come with that. when i put that side together the suspension was tight but i'll look into the other control arm tomorrow.

 

[Auto RS T]

I would drop the car back down and see what happens. I have read threads about our cars coming this way from the factory, maybe it is being put into a bind. I am assuming its not coming all the way out either, just enough to break the seal.

 

[injection]

alright thanks man i'll give that a shot tomorrow and see how it goes, the original axle i took out with my bad tranny came right out.. not like usualy. i'm a mechanic for 4 years and done a million axles and had to use a pry bar on them all. the one popped out easy when i did the tranny swap but it never actually popped out on me. i know that the axles from auto zone and them places aren't exactly the best crap and i've had lots of problems with them in the past, but i don't see how 3 axles are no good in a row. and i thought for sure the ball joint would have caused it so now it's like it pretty much either has to be the strut or the axle.

 

[injection]

alright guys i looked over the car real good today and i found the problemo. the carrier inside the tranny that the axle slides into is deeper then the one that was in my original tranny. the axle that i have doesn't go in far enough to clip in which is why it's coming out. now my question is the 97-99 axle about an inch inch and a half longer? do they have different lengths for 95-96 because i know when i checked the mitsubishi website they have 4 different axles for 95-96 BUT they go by vin number and i don't have a vin number for the car it came out of to give them. so i don't know if this tranny is from a 97-99 or if they have different axle lengths for the 95,96.. anyone know?

 

[injection]

i'm sorry i am writing a doublt post and i'm not trying to bump my thread and again i appologize but like i mentioned a million times i'm lost and need help so i'm putting things together. also i was just on the oem mitsubishi parts website and they have 4 different axle listings for the 95 gsx, so i was thinking, i bought my axle from one of them companies that supposedly imports engines and trannys from japan.. do you guys think that would also make a difference, even if it was a tranny from japan i'd still be able to get the axle from mitsubishi i hope correct?

 

[Auto RS T]

I would think that you could get the right axle still. It sounds like you need to get the right one out of the four of the axles. If there are 4 different axles, they must be different lengths. Maybe they have the measurments on the computer?

 

[injection]

well i called up a parts store that hire people that actually know what they're doing and the guy said he's ran into this problem before and he'll see what he can get me. i hate it so much when you call up auto zone and advanced auto and napa.. the chain stores like that and you get on the phone with people and ask a question and you end up having to explain how things work so it's pointless to even ask them any questions at all. i was on the phone the one day and i asked the guy ot measure the shaft that goes into the tranny to see how long it was, then he was measuring the hub side, then he was like the other side is like a female (put 2 and 2 together and realized he didn't know what a half shaft was) then i just hung up.. it's crazy how places like that can hire just anyone. so if this parts store i went to doesn't work out i'll have to go to mitsubishi and try my luck there. i really hope i don't have to change the differential.. does anyone have a website on where to get a good strong aftermarket one? i'll keep you guys posted on my progress.