AT to MT Swap Can I use my Auto front drive shafts?

[hellotbone]

As the tiltle states anyone done an AWD swap on a 2g and knows weather you can retain the AT drive shafts for the front or not?

 

[Templisk]

I'm honestly not sure, I asked Shepherd about an auto to manual conversion on an awd 2g DSM. This is the email I got back

That is a pretty major changeover. It would be much easier and cheaper to get a manual. The rear end and t.case all need changed as well.

Edit, quick search turned this up:

http://www.ecanfix.com/~mdhamilton/autotomanual.html

It says the driveshafts are the same.

 

[hellotbone]

Thanks i have a donor car though complete with everything so Im not worried about the swap or the parts.

 

[Templisk]

Hold on I just revisited that site and it says 1g FWD. Lemme see if I can find a 2g AWD guide.

 

[Templisk]

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54806&highlight=awd+auto+manual+conversion

i just did it in a 1G awd....its not "hard" per say, just REALLY time consuming. its just a lot of work and the parts arent exactly cheap. i think the 2g should be a little easier b/c of the pedal assembly...not to mention you guys can buy the ss clutch line that goes from the clutch master to the clutch slave. us 1g guys have to go find the hard line from a junk yard since the dealer no longer makes them. here's the parts list which is very generic and doesnt include the very small things like cotter pins and dowel pins:

-tranny (of course)
-transfer case
-rear differential and axles
-front axles
-shifter
-shift cables
-clutch/brake pedal assembly
-clutch master cylinder
-clutch slave cylinder
-clutch line
-clutch release bearing and ring clip
-clutch
-flywheel
-m/t flywheel bolts
-m/t tranny mount

those are the basics, but these are some things you might also wanna get:

-starion/conquest shift knob (really heavy and screws right on)
-shift kit and brass shift linkage bushings
-new release fork and pivot ball

also, i did my swap w/ the engine out and that made it 10x easier to install the clutch master cylinder and run the shift cables throught the firewall. i would say that with ALL the parts on hand as well as ALL the right tools, a moderately experienced "mechanic" like myself could probably do the swap in a weekend if i worked on it consistently. the vfaq is hardly realistic with a projected time lapse of 9 hrs....i wish it was that easy. anywho, hopefully someone that has done the swap in a 2g will chime in.

-James

Sorry about that =/

 

[treebonker]

As the tiltle states anyone done an AWD swap on a 2g and knows weather you can retain the AT drive shafts for the front or not?

Driveshafts are identical.

In case you were referring to the front axles. The passenger side axle and
the drivers side intermediate shaft assembly is different. The only thing you can retain is the drivers side axle.

Good luck.

 

[AWD]

I just did one on my 1G, and the driveshaft slid right in my t-case nicely, so I didn't need to swap out the ass-end.

 

[hellotbone]

Driveshafts are identical.

In case you were referring to the front axles. The passenger side axle and
the drivers side intermediate shaft assembly is different. The only thing you can retain is the drivers side axle.

Good luck.

Thank you that is what I was after.

 

[kristmen]

I just did one on my 1G, and the driveshaft slid right in my t-case nicely, so I didn't need to swap out the ass-end.

The ass-end isn't swaped out because the driveshaft is diffrent, its done because the final drive ratio of the automatic rear end is diffrent then the m/t. The gearing is diffrent.

If you did a a/t to m/t swap on a 1G and didnt swap out the rear end ummm ya... That's going to turn into an issue.

 

[kingpin1011]

if you do that swap you're my hero !!!

 

[kristmen]

Just swaped out the whole rear sub frame =)

Was fun. Hehehehe.

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