650 injectors no tune

[djseclipse]

I have moved from a county without emissions testing to one that does. My problem: I have a 99 gst with a obd1 Eprom ecu with a keydiver chip for the 650 injectors. Can I temporarily run my 99 ecu just long enough to pass obd2 testing?

 

[Mauispyder]

I suspect you'd show excess hydrocarbons from running rich. I'd like to see others chime in though. Do you have a catalytic converter? Do you still have your stock injectors?

 

[djseclipse]

No cat. No cel even when the 99 ecu was in. Do not have the 450 injectors.

Thought about going the flash route on the 99 ecu, but I know nothing about tuning.

 

[pimpy rider]

obd1 ecu? are you saying this car has a 1g harness/ecu in it?

 

[djseclipse]

No it has a 95 Eprom ecu

 

[djseclipse]

Keydiver sent me a ecu with Eprom and a stage 3 chip. So when they scan for emissions, it says signals not ready. Drive test doesn't work. So I assume reinstalling the original ecu would work but would be bad with the 650 injectors

 

[Cooper-97gst]

95 ecu is an obd2. You need an cat to pass the sniffer and hopefully pass visual. Where did you move to? hopefully not ca

 

[xlr8ed]

What I have understood about emissions if you car says not ready you will fail. Where I used to live you could only have 1 not ready everything else needed to be ready to pass. Also without cat you will fail visual. This is also depending who you get in the inspection line.

 

[djseclipse]

Just moved to another county in NC. Going to weld a 3" MagnaFlow cat in, but I'm more concerned about the signals from the computer. Wish dsmchips.com were still in business and I would just order a 99 ecu flashed from him.

 

[Dsmkauai]

http://www.dsmtuners.com/threads/not-passing-smog-because-of-monitors.167675/

 

[pimpy rider]

yeah i have a 95 eprom and its obd2. i thought all cars 95 snd newer were. ive opened it up to see if it was eprom, and i have used a obd2 wifi thing with it, works good

 

[Cooper-97gst]

Don't worry if the monitors aren't set. 2g are except from monitors ready test. Just have him run it an as long as everything else is ok you'll pass. You don't need the 99 ecu. You'll need the cat tho.

 

[djseclipse]

Thanks. I didn't think 99's were exempt just through 98? Anything I can use to prove this to the inspector?

 

[Dsmkauai]

http://www3.epa.gov/otaq/regs/im/obd/regtech/420b12044.pdf

 

[Mello]

I understand some of the above differently than what's been posted. All 2G DSM's were manufactured compliant to OBDII. ODBII was not mandated till 96. Your VIN is 99 and must pass OBDII regardless to what your ECU is. Mitsubishi fixed the readiness monitor for 99 & reported they worked so no exemption. 95 owners are lucky because by law they must only meet OBDI standards, not have to connect through the OBDII port, & can get away with tail pipe sniff tests & visual but the controlled emission gas levels are still stricter than the 1G DSM's level because the EPA squeezes tighter & tighter every year. You will not past without a functioning Cat. 650cc injector are almost 50% larger & most likely beyond the ECU range of self adjusting & you'll have high HC level & fail. E85 doesn't really help with HC but helps a lot with the CO & NOx.

 

[Mauispyder]

Cheapest route might be to pick up a set of used 450s and go with he 99 ecu and weld in the cat

 

[djseclipse]

Thanks to every one for the help. I will just weld in a 3 inch MagnaFlow cat and install stock injectors and computer. Would a flashed 99 ecu for the 650 injectors pass?

 

[2fast2evo]

As long as it is tuned properly and your cat is functional, you have nothing to worry about. I passed the (insane) tailpipe sniffer e-test in Ontario with 850s and a high-flow cat with flying colours.