4g63t build

[moto x]

i got my blown motor out 1991 eclipse and i got 1000 dollars to put in to it i would like to build it to get a decent amount more power and still be pretty reliable and ideas suggestions

 

[silver bullit]

Save it cause 1000 will get you a stock rebuild if you do it yourself. Just buy another motor and put it in.

 

[92dsmtalon]

i got my blown motor out 1991 eclipse and i got 1000 dollors to put in to it i would like to build it to get a decent amount more power and still be pretty reliable and ideas sugestions

How is the block, head, pistons, valves? Like, what actually happend to the motor?

 

[moto x]

head is fine block is fine the #1 piston inbetween the rings a 2" piece broke out

 

[laserspeeddemon]

Fixed it for ya.


I've never had an issue with composite before. I have one on my o-ring'd engine as well. These gaskets just don't get the credit that they used to.

They could be ok, but I never even gave them a chance. I heard other DSMers had problems when pushing the 400 mark, so I just scrubbed them altogether. I learn from others mistakes not just my own.

**Edit**

I finished the list. Total you come to about $1200 with all the stuff. You can try to talk to Extreme PSI as the are VERY helpful and negotiate to help you out with prices alot of times. Keep in mind this only includes parts, NOT labor or machining to get the parts installed correctly to specs. Have fun with it.

 

[99gst_racer]

How much HP is desired?
And what are your goals with it? (drag, autoX, street, etc...)

 

[moto x]

the cyclinder walls are all in pretty good shape. no deep scraches. my goals are do make a pretty quick street car. i wanta be able to take it to the drag strip on weekends and during the week drive it on the road and still be able to whoop on some v8 all week long

 

[99gst_racer]

So, lets say, less than 400 WHP. You can use you stock rods and stock head and cams. You could do a 1G rod/2G piston combo. Replace bearings, rings, oil pump, water pump, and timing components. As long as the cylinder walls aren't badly damaged or out of round, you can simply have them honed. Also have the block decked. If you shop around, you might be able to do all of this for $1000. Chances are it will still run a few hundred more though.

 

[moto x]

ya thats what i was thinking the 1g rods and 2g pistons. but would it be more logical to buy a motor 4 400-500$ and put about 4004 into it

 

[laserspeeddemon]

Yep, I was going to suggest 1g Big Rods with 2g pistons. You have a 6-bolt so you should have the Big Rods already, however I compared my 91 rods to the 90 rods, the 90's were slightly thicker. If not you can get it at On Green Performance. Below is a break down of parts costs.

$50 for 1g Big Rods from On Green Performance

2g rods/pistons go for about $50 on ebay, this one is currently at $28.00

Piston Seals for $139.00 at Extreme PSI

Main Bearings $33.00 at Extreme PSI

Rod Bearings $21.00 at Extreme PSI

Full Engine Gasket Set $155 at EXTREME PSI
(Throw out the composite Head Gasket)

Mitsubishi MLS Head Gasket $89.00 at Extreme PSI

ARP Head Studs $78.99 at Extreme PSI.

Oil Pump Drive Gear $52.00 at Extreme PSI

Oil Pump Driven Gear $27.50 at Extreme PSI

Valve Guides $90.00 at Extreme PSI

Water Pump Kit $122.00 at Extreme PSI

Complete Timing Belt Kit $299.00 at DSMotorsports

 

[99gst_racer]

Full Engine Gasket Set $155 at EXTREME PSI
(Give composite Head Gasket to 99gst_racer!)

Fixed it for ya.


I've never had an issue with composite before. I have one on my o-ring'd engine as well. These gaskets just don't get the credit that they used to.

 

[inneedof]

A stock motor is good for well over 400hp, just pick up a new short block.

 

[brandonzero0]

I'd build that motor you can barely trust any one selling a
" low mileage" short block.

 

[h8r]

^ agreed.. Unless it is coming out of a running car and you can do all the test for a good strong engine ...Ie compression test, leakdown, etc.

 

[DSM36]

You got to make your plan. Are you shooting for 300hp street car or a 700hp track car? NO PLAN=DSM that runs like $%IT, and an empty wallet. Do it once and do it right.

 

[moto x]

i would like around 300 h/p

what about the slowboyracing oem 2g pistons with rings for 200 is that a lagit deal u think and than just have my rods machined or will 2g rods fit my 6-bolt crank

also with that head gasket do i have to get my head milled a bit ive heard like .002 needs to be shaved off

 

[laserspeeddemon]

what about the slowboyracing oem 2g pistons with rings for 200 is that a lagit deal u think and than just have my rods machined or will 2g rods fit my 6-bolt crank

At least have a machine shop check it.

 

[mygsx2120]

NO PLAN=DSM that runs like $%IT, and an empty wallet.

Best advice ever. If you think you might want more later, do it right now.

 

[moto x]

http://www.store.partsdinosaur.com/product92.html i was looking at these and have my rods machined

 

[moto x]

bs romoval worth it or not for 42 dollors

 

[ROOKIE1]

http://www.store.partsdinosaur.com/product92.html i was looking at these and have my rods machined

Yeah , I had my rods machined . Went with wiseco .20 . SBR race head . The rod is what broke . I would replace with new rods next time.

 

[ROOKIE1]

bs romoval worth it or not for 42 dollors

, to eliminate a potential engine destroyer .

 

[stealth mullet]

Yep, I was going to suggest 1g Big Rods with 2g pistons. You have a 6-bolt so you should have the Big Rods already, however I compared my 91 rods to the 90 rods, the 90's were slightly thicker. If not you can get it at On Green Performance. Below is a break down of parts costs.

$50 for 1g Big Rods from On Green Performance

2g rods/pistons go for about $50 on ebay, this one is currently at $28.00

Piston Seals for $139.00 at Extreme PSI

Main Bearings $33.00 at Extreme PSI

Rod Bearings $21.00 at Extreme PSI

Full Engine Gasket Set $155 at EXTREME PSI
(Throw out the composite Head Gasket)

Mitsubishi MLS Head Gasket $89.00 at Extreme PSI

ARP Head Studs $78.99 at Extreme PSI.

Oil Pump Drive Gear $52.00 at Extreme PSI

Oil Pump Driven Gear $27.50 at Extreme PSI

Valve Guides $90.00 at Extreme PSI

Water Pump Kit $122.00 at Extreme PSI

Complete Timing Belt Kit $299.00 at DSMotorsports

you forgot...

valve stem seals. ~$30.

and i would just buy a new oil pump. no point in doing all this work, and possibly having to replace it in the near future.

 

[moto x]

http://www.extremepsi.com/store/customer/product.php?productid=17650 with this kit does it remove both shafts and is this all i need