2G tranny removal- Questions... HELP

[ALLeyesONmyGSX]

I have a 1999 eclipse GSX (5spd), and I'm currently swapping my turbo and doing a clutch job at the same time. I dont have any problems with the turbo, but have a few questions about removing the transaxle. I noticed that 3 of the 4 motor mounts are attached to the transmission. the only one that isnt attached is the one by the drivers side wheel (next to the timing belt). the cross member needs to be removed, right? the front motor mount is attached to the cross member, and is also attached to the tranny by 2 bolts. the rear mount is connected to the frame, but is also connected to the tranny as well. I've searched, but i only found write ups on 1g awd dsm's, and those dont have their motor mounts attached to the tranny.

Any1 know of a link that has a writeup on how to remove a 2g awd tranny? I'm gona go to my friends house and pick up an engine hoist, and hold up the oppposite side of the motor (opposite from the drivers motor mount), because I dont see any other way to do it. any tips or suggestions? Cross member needs to be removed, correct? how about the axle bolts? Could any1 tell me what size those bolts are? Any help would be great... thanks a lot guys.

the transfer case and downpipe is already removed, just to let u guys know. Also, I've removed and replaced a motor and a tranny on a 6spd 1995 3000gt vr4, and a 5spd 1992 vr-4, so I'm not a noob when it comes to cars. thanks a lot

-Andre

 

[AWDTSiTalon]

http://www.vfaq.com/mods/clutch-2G.html

 

[1fast97gsx]

take off front cross member with the mount ... rear mount is bolted to the trans by 3 17mm bolts ... pull those out ... then remove passenger side trans mount. unbolt all the minor bs and then unbolt the starter and finally the trans from the engine. I recommend supporting the engine by the oil pan although the last few times I just let it hang.

 

[vinh766]

i actually just finished up my first clutch job this morning, and yeah, do what the guy above me said, and make sure you have a big box of bandaids handy. and even when after everything is disconnected, the tranny is still gonna give you a hard time getting off of the motor, you gotta work with it, play with it, and just wiggle it til the input shaft finally lets off. good luck.

 

[1fast97gsx]

i actually just finished up my first clutch job this morning, and yeah, do what the guy above me said, and make sure you have a big box of bandaids handy. and even when after everything is disconnected, the tranny is still gonna give you a hard time getting off of the motor, you gotta work with it, play with it, and just wiggle it til the input shaft finally lets off. good luck.

I got smart and I just wiggle it once ... then take a huge pry bar between the block and the trans and give it 1 hard pry. At that point the trans is loose enough to slide right off.

 

[ALLeyesONmyGSX]

thanks a lot for all your advice... but I decided to tackle this with the help of my friend. I viewed the thread too early, it had no replies, and now i viewed it too late After doing a clutch swap on my 1995 VR-4, I just realized that both cars are pretty damn similar. the whole FWD (transverse motor) biased setup with the transfer case sending some power to the rear wheels is basically the exact same thing as the 6g72TT platform. I must say that a clutch job on a 4g63 awd isn't an easy task to do for any1 that isnt familiar with their shit. The downpipe, turbo and manifold were already removed (installing an EvoIII ported and clipped big16g turbo next week), along with the radiator, so I could pretty much see everything that needed to be removed. After taking off the transfer case and supporting the driveshaft with a floor jack, I disconnected the shift cables and the starter. the location of the starter sucked, but I still managed to move it out of the way. i then removed the long bolt going thru the front motor mount, and removed the cross member (PB Blaster is your friend those bolts were on TIGHT!). then I removed whatever was necessary in the suspension, along with the bracket for the drivers side axle (Same thing on my car). popped both axles out of the differential and moved them out of the way. I then removed the tranny mount- another set of extremly tight bolts. then I called my friend over- he has an engine hoist. I didnt feel comfortable putting all the weight of the motor on ONE motor mount, when it originally has 4 mounts. then I unbolted the tranny bolts, secured the engine hoist to the bracket by the valve cover, unbolted the rear motor mount bolts, and started wiggling the tranny off the car. after it slid off the dowel pins, the tranny came down with ease. After looking back at this, it wasnt all that bad. Some parts were a pain in the ass, but there was so much room to work with, that everything went pretty smoothly. Any1 tried a clutch swap on a 6spd VR4? (6spd tranny is much bulkier than the 5spd, and the frame is ALWAYS gona get in the way while dropping and lifting the transaxle back up) it's funny how these cars are so similar. here are some pictures. the clutch disk was toast, but it still had a little bit of meat left on it (with the stock turbo, def not with the big16g and its supporting mods).

Question- Why the hell are 3 out of the 4 mounts attached DIRECTLY to the tranny? The tranny mount- I could understand... but the other 2? :thumbdown i was like.. eh? I found some write ups for the 1g DSM and thought it would be the same... but NO- quite a bit different. anyway, thanks a lot for all your help, to whoever that helped me out.

here are some pics from the tranny drop:

is it necessary to replace the rear main seal?
could you guys tell me if the output shaft looks like its in good condition?
clutch was purple...
and thats the engine hoist I used to support the motor

whatta u guys think? I think I tackled the DSM platform pretty well. After working on one... I'd love to own one and turn it into a fast ass street OR track car. Unlike the 6g72tt platform, the damn 4g63's could be made FAST for cheap

Now I'm gona get the OEM flywheel resurfaced (two-stepping is required, correct?) and replace it with a Southbend DXD clutch. throwout bearing and shift fork will be replaced, and the flywheel and pressure plate will be cleaned with brake cleaner, along with the inside of the bell housing- does anything else need to be done?

-Allen (Andre's brother)