2g gsx brake upgrade brackets?

[99cliprs]

Can someone clear up the confusion I have on upgrading the front brakes. What exactly is the bracket I need to mount the dual piston calipers onto my gst? is it the hub backing? can someone possibly attach a pic of what it looks like or if they know anyone who might fabricate or sell this bracket? thanks



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[gofer]

You don't need that bracket to upgrade to GSX brakes, the brake calipers mount to the knuckle. To convert your car to the 2 piston AWD calipers all you need is GSX rotors, calipers, & brake pads. You'll have to modify or remove your stock GS-T dust shield to fit the bigger rotors but thats it.

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[99cliprs]

The caliper holes didnt line up with the knuckle, thats what I was wondering, would you happen to know a link with pics so I can see how to set it up thanks

 

[gofer]

The caliper holes didnt line up with the knuckle, thats what I was wondering, would you happen to know a link with pics so I can see how to set it up thanks

I posted up pics but apparently they didn't load because I can't see them. I'll get you some that work... just give me a few minutes.

 

[ChillinGST]

Yes, you need the caliper mouting bracket from an AWD for this conversion to work. The bolt palt pattern on the hub is the same, but the awd caliper and rotor are larger (the entire reason to upgrade).

 

[gofer]

Yes, you need the caliper mouting bracket from an AWD for this conversion to work. The bolt palt pattern on the hub is the same, but the awd caliper and rotor are larger (the entire reason to upgrage).

Either I was high when I did my GSX brake install OR you both are high right now... I have some pictures laying around of the entire swap, let me dig them up and hopefully I'm not eating my words from my first post.
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/articles-suspension-brakes/55306-dsm-dual-piston-caliper-upgrade-all-2gs-except-gsx-tsi-awd.html

Heres the pics I took from my brake swap.
1. GST caliper/rotor are removed but still have the OEM dust shield/bracket from the GST

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2. GSX rotor mounted

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3. GSX caliper bracket mounted <--- is this the mounting bracket your talking about???

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4. GSX caliper/pads installed

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[99cliprs]

"caliper mouting bracket from an AWD"

This is where Im confused is this an actual braket or is it the complete hub knuckle that I needed?

 

[gofer]

"caliper mouting bracket from an AWD"

This is where Im confused is this an actual braket or is it the complete hub knuckle that I needed?

I think they are calling the caliper mounting bracket whats in picture #3 of what I posted. I consider that a part of the caliper but I guess in technical car definition that would be considered a "caliper mounting bracket."

Yes of course you'll need that piece but it will mount to your FWD knuckle just like the FWD caliper "mounting bracket" did.

 

[99cliprs]

gofer do you already have a gsx or a gst maybe thats why it bolts right up for you?

okay the caliper mounting bracket mounts to the knockle, now if you have a gsx with the dual piston calipers, the holes from a AWD knockle will be father apart then the holes from the single piston caliper knockle thats where I ran into my problem, I was just wondering do I order that whole knuckle piece to make it work?

 

[gofer]

gofer do you already have a gsx or a gst maybe thats why it bolts right up for you?

okay the caliper mounting bracket mounts to the knockle, now if you have a gsx with the dual piston calipers, the holes from a AWD knockle will be father apart then the holes from the single piston caliper knockle thats where I ran into my problem, I was just wondering do I order that whole knuckle piece to make it work?

My car is a GS-T that I converted to a GSX and the front knuckles are EXACTLY the same. My guess is that the bigger brakes you bought aren't off of a GSX, because the AWD calipers bolt right up to the front knuckles of a GST.

I'm not trying to argue with you I'm just letting you know that something on your end isn't adding up... Nice car btw, it reminds me of an old member on here, his forum name was Signal.

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[snowborder714]

No, you don't need an AWD knuckle (they are the same as a FWD knuckle).

This is all you need - one set per side.

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*Side note. The calipers I have are from a 1g, so I needed different brake lines. If you get calipers from a 2g, they will use a banjo bolt instead of the screw-in style mine are.

 

[99cliprs]

Thanks I'm hoping your right thats what I thought too thats why I was so confused about the whole thing. I purchased some calipers off ebay before and when I went to go mount them the holes didnt line up so I sold them. now I'm looking to get some more cause my car stops like a train

How you like the upgrade btw?

 

[gofer]

How you like the upgrade btw?

Un-noticeable. Personally if you want to upgrade your brakes find a set of Evo Brembos, but if its not within your budget and you want a small stopping upgrade do the AWD brake swap.

GS-T
60mph to 0 in 122ft and the cars curb weight is 2767lbs.

GSX
60mph to 0 in 120ft and the cars curb weight is 3130lbs.

Evo XIII
60mph to 0 in 110ft and the cars curb weight is 3263lbs.

*EDIT* Like Brian said, if you get AutoZone specials for brake pads you might as well keep the 1-piston calipers bolted on.

 

[ChillinGST]

Yea, I just did the brake upgrade a month ago... I found it to be a nice upgrade from the 2wd version, haven't once faded them out yet, which i was able to do with the smaller 2wd version on several occasions.

 

[snowborder714]

I did the upgrade a while ago and I have liked it so far. But I've only autox'd the car once and haven't had it on a road course yet, so we'll see how they fare this summer. But just for every day type of stuff, I think it's a good upgrade as long as you get a good set of pads. Cheap pads won't do it justice.

 

[the_mork]

I can probably guess the answer to this (no), but will the gsx brakes fit under the stock 5 spoke gst rims?

 

[snowborder714]

Yep.

<img src="http://www.dsmtuners.com/gallery/files/7/4/5/6/5/img_3715__medium.jpg" alt="Blue 2g" />

 

[gofer]

Yep.

I second that, I have also ran my GS-T wheels after I did the upgrade with no clearance issues. I don't advise it though for the track since I think I was spinning a 4 wheels through 3rd but they do fit over the brakes.

 

[steve]

I think they are calling the caliper mounting bracket whats in picture #3 of what I posted.

Correct, it the part that bolts to the spindle and holds the brake pads. If you check many autoparts stores sell just the caliper without the mounting bracket since there isn't much to go wrong with a hunk of metal beside the pins rusting up.

People would go buy calipers trying to do the big brake upgrade and then wonder why they didn't fit since they didn't get the bracket too.

 

[tturbolife1]

its time to change my brakes, the squeeeeeeking is getting a little annoying. i want to upgrade them and im thinking of going with drilled slotted gsx brakes for my gst... having said that, after reading this and a few other threads all i would need is gsx calipers correct?

 

[snowborder714]

You'll need new rotors, calipers, and pads at a minimum. If you happen to get 1g calipers, you'll need new lines as well. And if your calipers don't come with all the hardware (lock/guide pins, pad clips, etc.) you'll need that stuff too.

I'd recommend staying away from drilled rotors, as they are typically weaker and more prone to cracking. Blanks are the best for the price, or you'll pay more for some good slotted rotors.

 

[Hideki]

When I upgraded to the GSX calipers and rotors, I did not need any additional bracket. Of course, that "U" shaped caliper bracket is required just like on the factory FWD brakes. In my honest opinion, when I had GSX calipers, Powerslot rotors, Porterfield pads SS lines and Motul fluid the brakes would bite a lot harder than the factory ones, and even stronger than my EVO Brembos do. I attribute most of this due to the GST's master cylinder being too small for the massive EVO brakes. Also, you'll need the brake lines from a GSX or better yet SS lines for a GSX for using the GSX calipers on a FWD.

 

[snowborder714]

The brake lines from a 2g FWD and 2g AWD should be the same - both banjo bolts. If you get a 1g AWD caliper, you'll need a screw in line (threads directly into the caliper at an angle).

 

[tturbolife1]

stay away from drilled? so either blank or slotted?

 

[snowborder714]

Yes, because most of the rotors that are cross drilled are done at the end, which makes weak points in the rotor. Proper drilled rotors would be cast that way so it's much stronger.

I have PowerSlots and think they're great. But much more expensive than blanks, most of which work pretty good too.