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2g easy brake upgrade using cobalt ss turbo brembo monoblock calipers

Posted by sleeperX2013, Mar 19, 2014

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  1. pksystems

    pksystems Proven Member

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    Is using an 05 outlander rotor with Brembo calipers really an upgrade over the bolt-on (no hogging holes) 05 Outlander "Bigger Big Brake upgrade" ?

    You're not gaining any thermal reserves.

    Are the 4 smaller pistons in the Brembos giving any more clamping force then the 2 big pistons in the Mitsu parts?

    I've seen bigger calipers on smaller rotors before on a different site I frequent, and it's usually a cosmetic upgrade. :)
     

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  2. black_gst

    black_gst Proven Member

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    I think the answer to your question would really depend on pad compound...

    the 4 piston brembos likely have more clamping force then the outlander brakes (which I used to have and work great actually, I only got rid of them because I came across a deal on a 13" Cobra/PBR setup) but without quality pads its likely not much better.

    last I checked, when I bought my outlander brackets, they were nearly out of stock across the US.
     

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  3. sleeperX2013

    sleeperX2013 Proven Member

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    Guys I'll be running drilled and slotted outlander rotors and upgraded hawk or similar pads
     
  4. Spooled420a

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    Any updates on this setup?
     

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  5. talonesi95t

    talonesi95t Supporting VIP

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    Updates?
     

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  6. Silver99GSX

    Silver99GSX Proven Member

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    Sweet write up, can't wait to see how everything works out. I'm just in the process of doing a front brake upgrade. I was going to spend the extra buck on the Stoptech Big Brake kit, Just cause I did this upgrade on my old 02' Audi S4 and they were amazing, they best brakes I've ever used. So please let us know how you make out. You Could always try Photobucket.com to upload Pics too.

    Justin
     

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  7. TurkF26

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    Any update on this? I am definitely interested as to how this turned out

    Thanks
     
  8. jbus

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    GREAT FIND! add it to the list. haha
     

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  9. seanybutta25

    seanybutta25 Probationary Member

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    Would these cobalt calipers allow fitment for stock 2g chrome wheels?
     
  10. TurkF26

    TurkF26 Supporting VIP

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    From what everyone has said in this thread, no, they will not clear the stock GSX rims. I am 99% sure they wont clear the GST rims either because of their design and size
     
  11. miliman13

    miliman13 Proven Member

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    Stock wheels for stock brembo brakes are shaped a certain way to clear. wheels that were never ment for brembos wont clear.
     

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  12. 99ECLIPSEGSXDSM

    99ECLIPSEGSXDSM Proven Member

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    Anyone have actual experience with this setup as far as racing goes?
     

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  13. TehRiceBandit

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  14. jmelocik

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    Interesting mod, not sure if it's worth the effort for a little increase in clamping force. The increase in the diameter of the Evo rotors accounts for the serious increase in braking force one several accounts, one is the increased torque of the larger diameter rotor, second is the better heat dissipation of the larger rotor due to more surface area and larger vented area, third is the larger diameter of the caliper bore which, when properly accounted for with master cylinder diameter makes for more clamping force. One question I haven't seen anyone else ask is what is the pedal feel? I know with the Evo Brembos you need to increase the diameter of the master cylinder bore to account for the increase in volume of the caliper or you will have a very mushy pedal.
     

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  15. Vdubzr32

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    I guess this thread never got a final answer regarding the correct rotor to use...Its old but someone else had to try it???
     

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  16. FallenKing

    FallenKing Proven Member

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    This is a game changer
     
  17. Vdubzr32

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    Ok since the there wasn't a direct answer to using the Cobalt Brembo I began to scarily do it...I used 05 outlander rotors with a 16inch rim. I have a slight rub to the rim from the lower part of the brembo slight rub. Take a look at the pictures I also used 10mm Back spacing off the rotor. I will change it because in order to center the Outlander Rotor to the Brembo Caliper it will need a 1mm spacer behind the rotor. After that I will use 9mm spacer for the rim to fit.

    I love the OZ F1 Racing wheels hence I'm going thru the trouble to fit them. To each his own right.

    Take a look tell me what ya think... everyone has an opinion. Let's here them
     

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  18. Geeb

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    This is an awesome find if you can find a set cheap enough but if you are buying a new set just go cts-v best cheap brake upgrade and it's like 550-600$ start to finish

    But again
    ..awesome find
     

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  19. 802gst

    802gst Proven Member

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    Time to scour the junk yard.
     

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  20. AdR

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    This is a great option for those wanting a 16" wheel. It might be good for those that drag race on 16"ers to get that extra stopping power and still use drag slicks.


    1mm is an extremely small difference in offset. Would it be possible to just shim the side of the pads that's offset using a 1mm shim spacer? That would center the pad surfaces back to track. If there is enough room in there it might be a solution. Can't really say as I don't know the rotor thickness vs the caliper.
     

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  21. Vdubzr32

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    Could be possible but I just want the rotor centered but I will look at the options
     

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  22. AdR

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    Just putting it out there as getting a 9mm spacer is not an easy feat.
     

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  23. Vdubzr32

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    That I do know but I found a company that makes them 35 a pop. Someone spoke about them here on another forum
     

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  24. warren

    warren Proven Member

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    Hey so any info on the kit.
    Don’t need to used any bracket?
    Would 17x9 fit. Rpf1
     

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