2G Cam Sprocket Sensor

[jtmaupin]

Does anyone know the name and/or part number to the sensor that is located behind the Intake Cam Sprocket. I have tried to identify it with the CAPS, and thru the forums, but can't seem to locate the name. This is on a 95 Talon 4g63T.

Thanks for any help,

Justin

 

[sspeck]

I believe you're looking for:


MD300102 - Camshaft Position Sensor

In CAPS you need to go into Engine Electrical - Electrical Control and then use the "Next" button to go to the next page.

 

[fulanititoo8198]

I'm also looking for it, I thought it was called the power transistor module/unit...anyone know for sure?

 

[sspeck]

The ignition power transistor is located on your intake manifold. If you are looking for a sensor directly behind the intake camshaft gear on a '95/'96 4G63 DSM, see my original post. Download CAPS, open a factory service manual, or call a dealer to verify for yourself.

 

[1fast97gsx]

the power transistor and coilpacks both hide behind the intake cam sprocket. The sensor bolted on the other side of the head ( away from the timing belt ) is the cam angle sensor. What does this part you are talking about look like?

 

[sspeck]

1fast97gsx - I believe both people were referring to '95 DSMs. The CAS is not on the "passenger side" of the head on '95 DSMs. I realize you have a '97 and you've done a 6-bolt swap, so I know you realize where some of the components in question are located on your car.

I have a '95 and a '98 with a 6-bolt swap sitting in my garage right now. As a NABR member I would assume you have CAPS installed and/or the factory service manuals on CD. Take a look and see where it's at for the '95 year. I know I did before posting any information here.

I would also say, that if the coil and power transistor are "behind the intake cam sprocket", then we have a difference of opinion on what "behind" means. By your definition, the battery is "behind" the intake cam sprocket. The camshaft position sensor on a '95 is literally behind the intake camshaft sprocket, bolted to the drivers side of the head.

 

[fulanititoo8198]

I'm confused, so what is the name of the sensor behind the red arrow on a 95?

 

[sspeck]

I'm confused, so what is the name of the sensor behind the red arrow on a 95?

Camshaft Position Sensor

 

[1fast97gsx]

The camshaft position sensor on a '95 is literally behind the intake camshaft sprocket, bolted to the drivers side of the head.

My apologies ... I never realized how different the 95s were. I always thought on all dsms the CAS is on the passenger side of the head. Just out of curiousity then, what's used to plug the hole in the head / valve cover where the CAS would be sticking out on a 97 for example. Do they just have some sort of block off plate on a 95 or is it a completely different head that doesn't have a spot to even mount a CAS on the passenger side? Actually I don't have CAPS ... it would probably be very helpfull if I did though.

 

[MattyD]

Just a little off topic, but I thought it may be helpful for people. I have a 97 GST and on the original engine the cam angle sensor was located on the passenger side of the head. When I replaced the engine with a different one (also from a 97) the CAS was like the one pictured about. I think that depending on production dates of the 97 the CAS may be on the passenger side of the head. If anyone can confirm this that would be great.

~Matt

 

[fulanititoo8198]

I took of the intake camgear off of my 95 and I don't think that what I'm talking about is what you guys are talking about. Is this the camshaft position sensor? I took it out of the car because it broke.

 

[1fast97gsx]

That is the crankshaft position sensor. How exactly did it break? That's usually one of the parts to go on a 2g with crankwalk.

 

[fulanititoo8198]

That is the crankshaft position sensor. How exactly did it break? That's usually one of the parts to go on a 2g with crankwalk.

haha great just what I wanted to hear. Well for some reason I dont know how I looked and it was broken. I took of the camgear I noticed it too was bent only a little, in a certain place, and that caused it to break the sensor. I can't figure out how or why yet. I'm hoping I dropped something there and it got caught in the camgear but I'm not sure, and I dought it has anything to do with crankwalk.

 

[sspeck]

Gentlemen. I apologize, as I think the first photo I tried to post didn't show up. Hopefully this one works. That sensor is the camshaft position sensor. It looks very similar to the crank angle sensor. 1fast97Gsx - If you've had your motor out and seen the front case, you know that your crank angle sensor is actually located down by the crank. In the picture that fulanititoo8198 posted, you can see the sensor he is talking about is behind the cam gear.

I'm trying to provide accurate information here, but it seems pretty difficult. If people don't strive to provide accurate information on these boards, then they are worthless. Therefore I fully expect people to challenge and correct anything that I post. But man, it's frustrating when people are willing to accept the completely wrong answer as long as there is the word "crankwalk" associated with the answer.

I think we should give up on the real answer, and just say it's the flux capacitor and order a new one from Doc.

 

[fulanititoo8198]

I appreciate your "accurate" information.

 

[RacethisTSI]

Gentlemen. I apologize, as I think the first photo I tried to post didn't show up. Hopefully this one works. That sensor is the camshaft position sensor. It looks very similar to the crank angle sensor. 1fast97Gsx - If you've had your motor out and seen the front case, you know that your crank angle sensor is actually located down by the crank. In the picture that fulanititoo8198 posted, you can see the sensor he is talking about is behind the cam gear.QUOTE]



Just curius..but where did you get that diagram..?

 

[sspeck]

where did you get that diagram..?

It's from the software usually referred to as CAPS, which is a part # retrieval program. You can usually find somewhat recent copies posted on this and other forums for download.

 

[Syndicate13]

Just a little off topic, but I thought it may be helpful for people. I have a 97 GST and on the original engine the cam angle sensor was located on the passenger side of the head. When I replaced the engine with a different one (also from a 97) the CAS was like the one pictured about. I think that depending on production dates of the 97 the CAS may be on the passenger side of the head. If anyone can confirm this that would be great.

~Matt

All 95 and 96 turbo cars have the camshaft position sensor located directly behind the intake sprocket. All 1G and 97-99 cars have the CAS located on the passenger side of the head inline with the intake cam. If your supposed 97 motor has it behind the cam gear it's either A) not a 97 motor or B) has a 95-96 head on it.

That is the crankshaft position sensor. How exactly did it break? That's usually one of the parts to go on a 2g with crankwalk.

WOW.

 

[fortworthdsm]

Would any of you know where to get the camshaft sensor from. I called Mitsubishi today and they had no clue to what i was talking about, the part they had was totally different. I've had my 96 tsi for 2 days and havent even driven it because i broke that sensor myself

 

[fulanititoo8198]

Would any of you know where to get the camshaft sensor from. I called Mitsubishi today and they had no clue to what i was talking about, the part they had was totally different. I've had my 96 tsi for 2 days and havent even driven it because i broke that sensor myself

I just bought one yesterday I found it in autozone,norwoods auto parts, mitsubishi graveyard, and classifieds (email people that are parting out their cars)

 

[Syndicate13]

Would any of you know where to get the camshaft sensor from. I called Mitsubishi today and they had no clue to what i was talking about, the part they had was totally different. I've had my 96 tsi for 2 days and havent even driven it because i broke that sensor myself

Something for the future. Most parts people are idiots so go down to the dealer and have them print out a diagram of that area of the engine. Then point out specifically what part you want and hope they don't screw up the order.

 

[1gdsmNI]

What does CAPS stand for and where can I get it?