2g awd fuel pump install stripped 14mm nut

[ohmygahitsjosh]

This may be a rather newbish question so I figured Id post it in here rather than bolt-on tech...

After doing some research ive found that a fair amount of people have cut the metal fuel line under the car when they couldnt break the 19mm/14mm flare fitting loose.

My 14mm nut is stripped and flare nut wrenches just rotate around it with any decent amount of force applied to them...

My main concern is that if I cut the metal lines itll pinch them shut and Ill be stuck trying to get them to be fully open again and also dealing with possible fuel leaks down the road from the rubber/hose clamp fix..

Is it possible to just cut the thicker rubber hose behind the 19mm side? And then just insert some sort of fitting to reconnect the rubber hoses together after?

I cant find anything on here of anyone trying it before and Im a bit hesitant to take the plunge without some reassurance from some people who have been around the dsm block for a lot longer than I have haha

Thanks for any advice/help!
-Josh

 

[bsbllfit7]

before u cut anything use a vice grip. I didnt have flare wrenches and used a normal one, ended up rounding it off so i tried using a vice grip. Worked flawlessly the very first time i used it. Also use some bolt breaker or whatever that stuff is that gets in there and works bolts loose.

 

[ohmygahitsjosh]

Alright All I have is PB blast currently.. and I may even be out of that and down to just wd-40 :/

Also previous to this my car smelled slightly of gas but not too strongly.. I had noticed one of my top injector orings on cylinder 1 was mangled the last time I had them out but I have some evo 560s im putting in with fresh seals so I wasnt going to worry about it...

Well seems how I couldnt get the fuel line apart I had decided on at least replacing the beat o ring so I could get rid of that gas'y smell... or so I thought ha

I pull all 4 injectors and replaced the o rings with some new ones I picked up at advance auto... the o rings looked a bit smaller? like there was room on either side of them when they were in the groove... but they pressed into the fuel rail tight and they didnt seem to rotate hardly and after breaking off yet ANOTHER fuel rail bolt (brand new agh) and drilling that out I replaced the fuel rail and bolted it down and let the car sit over night for some of the gas that poured out of the fuel rail to evaporate...

Well... now my car WREAKS (spelling?) of gas. Like so bad that I took it for a spin thinking maybe it just needed some airflow to get the smell out and I had to open the roof and have my window down to not feel like I was going to be choked out by fumes ha...

So I guess if anyone could clue me in as to if maybe Advance injector o rings are not legit?
Ive been at work the last 2 days so I havent had time to check but maybe while trying to lossen the fitting up I loosened it up just enough to leak? Or tore the hardline of soft line? I havent noticed any puddles or drips .. but like I said I havent had time yet to really check things out...
Also while trying to do the FP install while following the steps it had me remove that white ring first before trying to disconnect that line so when it woldnt come apart I had to reinstall the white ring and had some issue trying to figure out if i had the threads lined up properly because as you im sure know as you unscrew it it lifts the lid up... and that fuel line that was still connected only has very little clearance of the metal surrounding it making it impossible to really manuever the top of the assembly/white ring in a way to now if it was squarely on its threads... maybe that is causing the smell?

Just thinking out loud I guess... Id put the new evo injectors in but Im not knowledgeable with ecuflash enough yet to know what Im doing as far as at least getting those compensated for... I tried downloading my rom from the ecu and it SAID it was successful... but thats about as far as I got on that one... When I tried to save it it started asking me a questions about stuff I couldnt answer so Ive just put it on hold til I can find a walkthru or someone who can take the time and take me thru the process step by step.. I tend to grasp the concept of things better that way ;]

Anyways, I should have some time today and Ill go see about some vicegrips and see if I cant get any further with it. Thanks!
In the meantime if anyone HAS successfully cut that rubber hose and used a fitting to reattach it feel free to chime it!

 

[bsbllfit7]

sounds like when you lifted the white plastic piece that screws on it removed the gasket slightly that sits in the gas tank. I did this and it took me awhile to figure out how to put the gasket in. It goes into the tank and seals with just a lip. If this is not sealing properly, that is the source of the stinky

 

[ohmygahitsjosh]

awesome is there any quick way to check it short of getting out the rubber mallot and undoing that white thing again? Also would it be a terribly bad idea if I took some tin snips and cut a little bit of the metal opening back around where that one fuel line is attached? Perhaps itd give me slightly more room to manuever the unit next time

 

[bsbllfit7]

nope gotta get the mallet out again. And ya the tin snips is what i did. I just cut a v out and bent it a little bit. I really didnt want to tear my fuel line haha. Just follow the vfaq and your set

 

[ohmygahitsjosh]

alright.. thanks Ill definately give that stuff a try when I get home

Did you just use the vicegrips and tighten all the original lines back together when you were done?

 

[bsbllfit7]

yup i did but i didnt wrench on it very hard because i didnt want to twist the actual metal line

 

[docb002000]

I couldnt get my line off either from under the seat so I just disconnected the line from the other side of the rubber where it goes to the hard line under the car. Far as your injectors, I did the autozone orings too and they were garbage, NAPA has the kit that replaces every piece of rubber on the injector from the IM to the fuel rail for $6 an injector.

 

[ohmygahitsjosh]

yea its the under the car fitting that im messing with :/
No luck with the vice grips either so far :/

And it WAS those crappy advance auto o rings that was the gas problem..
4 BRAND NEW orings = 2 torn up and beat worse then the 1 I was trying to replace in the first
place.
1 Actually intact completely fine
1 Completely tore in two with one of the pieces propping the injector from
sealing..

I ended up just throwing in the evo 560s because I didnt have any other orings and any sort of store that would carry anything like that (i.e. napa) is 30 miles away... make that any store at all for that matter :/

Now I guess Ill be wiring in a safc II to compensate for the 560s til I can get a better understanding on using ecuflash and editing the rom data. Ive been trying to find some sort of walk thru guide for using ecu flash from start to finish on pulling your rom, saving it, editing and reflashing it but I cant seem to pull up something like that in my searches on this forum or google for that matter...

Fuel pump is gonna have to wait for another day and Im going to have to figure out what my best plan of action is where I cant get that bottom fitting to come loose :/