1G mods

[big-cat]

ok ive looked through the posts, tuning guide and everything now here are my questions. This will all be going on my near stock 1G turbo awd plymouth laser(ive done all the repairs and such so its time to start modding). I want to hit about 300 hp this year im planning on doing the following mods: ported 2G o2 housing, ported 2g manifold, 2.5" downpipe, 2.5" cat, 2.5" cat back, boost gague, electronic or manual boost controller, high flow fuel pump. what additional things do you guys suggest, what would be the max hp i could force out of this in the long run with added support mods, and what brands/parts do you suggest i get(help choosing a boost controller would be nice)?

 

[ben90tsi]

http://www.dsmtuners.com/tuning-guide/1gturbo/ , Follow the guide

 

[big-cat]

allready looked at it thats what im planning on doing im just curious as to how far i can push that set up, what tunning gear i need data logging, ect. and what specific products do people sugest for boost controller, exhaust, ect.

 

[mavisky]

i wouldn't plan on hitting 300hp without putting some bigger injectors, a fuel controller (maft, safc, dsmlink), and maybe even a 16g. 300whp has been done on a 14b, but there was alot done to it and was running race gas.

honestly my 14b at about 20psi on 94 pump scoots along pretty well. with a set of 510's, same exhaust mods, intake piping, ported 1g o2 housing, 2g manifold, and 7cm exhaust housing i think it'll trap higher than the 104 in my sig since i added the maft and i haven't even had a chance to mess with any of the tuning yet.

 

[big-cat]

so you figure with my planned upgrades plus a fuel controll system, bigger injectors and say an evo 3 turbo id be set to hit 300awhp??? god i hope so

 

[Shadowfax]

so you figure with my planned upgrades plus a fuel controll system, bigger injectors and say an evo 3 turbo id be set to hit 300awhp??? god i hope so

Don't think it's a big deal. I used to own a 5.0 Notch- just over 3000lbs, 5.0 5spd 8.8 rear end- the following were my mods-

TFS Stage I cam, GT40 heads ported/polished, 3 angle valve job, 11:1 KB pistons, 65mm tb, kirban regulator, 70mm Cobra MAF, 24 lb/hr injectors, X3Z Cobra EEC, 1.7 Crane RR, hardened pushrods, ARP head studs, CFDF, BBK headers, BBK offy X pipe, dumped 2.5", 3.73 gears, B&M short throw shifter, Steeda quadrant, cable, firewall adjuster, 9mm FMS wires, MSD TFI coil, 3g alt, 3 core alum rad, DSM FANS ( worked great too ), a/c delete, smog delete, p/p upper/lower intake... all it really needed was more fuel- and I would have BARELY been over 300HP perhaps 330ish - AT THE CRANK!

You can't complain about $1500-$2500ish in mods to hit 300WHP in an AWD!

The Heads $600, the cam $150, the pistons $250, the Cobra inj/eec/maf $400, the Headers $150, the X $150, the gears $150 - all installed by me - $1850 alone.

DSM's are not THAT expensive to mod- and you get some dang good results from it!

 

[big-cat]

im not complaining im just suprised thats all it would take! im used to all the honda civics cruising around here im one of the few people fixing up a DSM exspecially a 1G im also woundering what parts I whould look into replacing if im going to be launching the car on a regular basis i know the tranny and clutch are a must but what else?

 

[Daem0n]

I say drop the plans for a 2.5 inch exhaust and go for 3. A 2.5 is just fine for now, but odds are to see 300 you'll need a bigger turbo, of which 2.5 begins to be more of a restriction.

 

[mavisky]

I say drop the plans for a 2.5 inch exhaust and go for 3. A 2.5 is just fine for now, but odds are to see 300 you'll need a bigger turbo, of which 2.5 begins to be more of a restriction.

while that may be true people have run damned fast times on 20g's with 2.5" exhausts back in the day. it really depends on your goals, if 300hp is where you intend to stop then a 2.5" will be cheaper and get you there while allowing you to get some other stuff with the money you saved. now obviously if your total goal is an awd track monster then gonig to a 3" now would be the better option. i personally never planned on clearing 350hp, and not really even clearing 300hp (your front tires can only handle so much power before you have to run slicks on the streets to get traction) so a 2.5" worked fine for me.

 

[big-cat]

all i want is to show the honda boyz around here what a real car can do so im thinking 2.5 should be good enough, but i may opt for a 3.

 

[mavisky]

all i want is to show the honda boyz around here what a real car can do so im thinking 2.5 should be good enough, but i may opt for a 3.

hell you could probably do that stock with the free mods done.

 

[big-cat]

not the ones with b18 swaps.

 

[mavisky]

not the ones with b18 swaps.

okay, for those you'll need a good clutch and a boost controller. 15psi and a good launch will embarass most any honda you'll run into except for the ones with a b18 in an old crx and a ton of bolton stuff.

 

[big-cat]

nice! I'm also currious as to how much boost an Evo 3 turbo can handle and how much boost the stock 1G BOV can take before crappin out!