19C vs what is better for less then 800 USD?

[Sp33dster]

hello

i found 19c.. well my friend that own starion order one and i start to wonder if he had got better turbine then i had.

it flow 600cfm with 380hp rate and cost 699.00 USD http://linux.forcedperformance.net/...Product_Code=NTDSM19C&Category_Code=DSM-Turbo sorry if this is against Dsmtuner policy (didnt find about this in rules and dsmtuner dont sell 19c)

so i want to find better turbine for about same price and didnt find what T3/T4 flow at so race is hard to get one step ahead hehe and there you folks get involve

with thanks David

p.s. 16g has less flow and rate hp (well it is cheaper and 16g is always nice voice in my ears) but i would take T3/T4 always over 16g (19c sound better then T3/T4 and cost less + i dont need new manifold as for T3/T4)

 

[DSMSpyder99]

AGP and PTE both make T3/t4 for a base price of $800 that bolt up to stock e.mani & o2 housing. I just bought from AGP T3/T4 50-Trim for $950 ($100 internally wastegated w/ 38mm flapper, and 90* bend to bolt up to stock LICP location) which flows 700cfm

 

[deusxmachina]

There's a reason many, many more people run 16g's instead of 19c's. There's no point in trying to reinvent the wheel on these old turbos. Some turbos simply work while others don't. I daresay that spec sheets are meaningless in the real world.

 

[kpt4321]

EvoIII 16g. That should be the only real turbo option for under 700 bucks.

 

[Sp33dster]

i know 19c dont work well with boost over 20 and i aint going to boost up

big Evo III 16g flow about 550 cfm and rate at 375 hp (small 16g flow about 505 cfm and rate at 350 hp)

i rather take T3/T4 then 16g but that i have read through the times that T3/T4 need new manifold to work correct. "Requires external wastegate and non-Mitsubishi exhaust manifold" is said about T3/T4 turbine.

 

[KeltonDSMer]

Uhhhh, the EVOIII 16g definately flows more than the regular big 16g. I know two people that have logged 43 and 44lb/min on theirs and these aren't numbers skewed by an AFC or something like that. That is almost 20g territory, (44lb/min is 637CFM......quite a bit more than the rating of 550).

Remember, most flow ratings are at 15psi or 1bar and the EVOIII 16g flows more at higher boost levels.

 

[DSMSpyder99]

i know 19c dont work well with boost over 20 and i aint going to boost up

big Evo III 16g flow about 550 cfm and rate at 375 hp (small 16g flow about 505 cfm and rate at 350 hp)

i rather take T3/T4 then 16g but that i have read through the times that T3/T4 need new manifold to work correct. "Requires external wastegate and non-Mitsubishi exhaust manifold" is said about T3/T4 turbine.

man you dont listen do you? AGP and PTE both have t3/t4 THAT BOLT UP TO STOCK MANIFOLD AND o2 HOUSING! YOU DONT NEED A EXTERNAL WASTEGATE PEOPLE HAVE RUN UPTO 24PSI WITH THE INTERNAL WASTEGATE W/ 38MM FLAPPER