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16g,190,650s advice on settings

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ludevtec93

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Jul 15, 2004
oakland, California
i recently just installed my 650s and safc, i was wondering what settings i should use for now .. i have a logger on the way already but i need to drive my car daily and i was just wondering if anybody had a similar set up as me and what your settings were.. mods are in profile
 
it doesn't matter if someone has the exact same setup as you. You need to get tuned straight away. There's lots of advice on the tuning board that will help you to be able to get a decent tune on your own. Are you having trouble at idle??? Is the car drivable at this point?
 
it's drivable but i just wanted some opiinions on initial settings.. i will be getting it tuned hopefully this weekend.. if my loggers comes in this week
 
I just installed my S-AFCII and 650 injectors. As a beginner to the tuner world, I realize the weather has alot to do with how to turn. In the morning I notice the car runs lean, so I richen it but as the day goes on and I leave for work the car runs rich. I would definitly get a logger and try not to drive the car till you have a logger to check your fuel trims. But if you need to my Hi thottle is 80% Low thottle is 30%

LOW THOTTLE
800 rpm -10%
1000 rpm -14%
1400 rpm -16%
1800 rpm -16%
2000 rpm-16%
3000-7200 rpm -16%

HIGH THOTTLE
800-7200 -15% (I think)
Like I said before I'm new to the tunning so I would research more before using my changes.
 
You'd be very brave (or crazy) to make any changes without a logger... I hope you realize how much damage you can do to your car with the S-AFC without being able to see the effects of your changes. You can't just take someone else's settings with similar mods and plug them into yours. You need a logger plain and simple. You might have other variables or an issue that you don't even know about that could cause those settings to not work correctly. Get your logger and don't make changes until you install it. You really should have planned to have the logger BEFORE you installed the injectors, because you shouldn't be driving the car without having it tuned - and it's insane to tune the car without having a logger.

Also, get an EPROM burned for your setup from Keydiver. It's better than using the AFC by itself - actually it's the right way to do it if you're not using a DSMlink or full stand alone. Instead of fooling the ECU with big compensation changes with the AFC, you should have the EPROM handle most of the compensation.
 
Ludachris said:
You'd be very brave (or crazy) to make any changes without a logger... I hope you realize how much damage you can do to your car with the S-AFC without being able to see the effects of your changes. You can't just take someone else's settings with similar mods and plug them into yours. You need a logger plain and simple. You might have other variables or an issue that you don't even know about that could cause those settings to not work correctly. Get your logger and don't make changes until you install it. You really should have planned to have the logger BEFORE you installed the injectors, because you shouldn't be driving the car without having it tuned - and it's insane to tune the car without having a logger.

Also, get an EPROM burned for your setup from Keydiver. It's better than using the AFC by itself - actually it's the right way to do it if you're not using a DSMlink or full stand alone. Instead of fooling the ECU with big compensation changes with the AFC, you should have the EPROM handle most of the compensation.

Chris is on the dot here.

Compensating for all that extra fuel will create a virtual nightmare with timing. Having a chip to compensate for that is a life-saver.
That being said,
since you have already installed SAFC and injectors and need to trive the car, initial settings suggested but other folks will get you from point A to point B, but in no way imply that you can get on it. amount of damage to your engine caused by imporoper mixture grows exponentially with load, so drive like a grandma untill you get a logger.
 
if you get a chip to compensate arent you going to hit fuel cut sooner? I know 720's are pretty big for an safc but 660's are good without tricking the ecu too much and you can raise the boost without hitting fuel cut.
 
DSMTalonAWD51 said:
if you get a chip to compensate arent you going to hit fuel cut sooner? I know 720's are pretty big for an safc but 660's are good without tricking the ecu too much and you can raise the boost without hitting fuel cut.
:confused: How would getting a chip make you hit fuel cut sooner? I don't understand the logic... A Keydiver chip can be (and usually is) programmed to eliminate fuel cut. 660s need to be compensated for a good amount and the best way to compensate on a budget is an EPROM with an S-AFC to fine tune. You don't want to do it all with an AFC, as Newlogics said - the timing will be way off.
 
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