11's are they to far away

[brads]

Originally posted by 14.5 drift
the sr20 is able to make the same amount of power on the same turbo but at only 7 psi. With 14 lbs on a t25 the sr puts out about 250. After looking under the hood I came to the conclusion that a transvearse motor setup might produce more heat. Why else would nearly an identical motor under identical loads have so much less power. The sr20 manifold/turbo is more exposed and might catch wind and disapate heat better.

So the 4g63 is nearly identical to the SR20 now? Are you talking about the 4g63 that is in our cars, or the 4g63 that is in the US Evo, which according to you is the same as the DSM 4g63? And the SR20 manifold/turbo catches more wind than the 4g63 manifold/turbo? And the wind dissipating the heat gives the SR20 that much more power? I just want to make sure I am understanding this right.

Thanks,
Brad

 

[awdburnout]

Originally posted by 14.5 drift
as listed in your sig, sorry I didn't see that before. If it were me as I said the 16 is not the best thing for you. You Are building an all out street track machine, no? I would invest in a gt25/gt30 and find a nice 100 shot to get you out of the hole, again, a stand alone to moniter every thing happening in that very expensive motor and that car will scoot.

the 16g is on it for the time being, i plan to go with a big t3t4 or something around there, as of now its managed by a safc not all that good and for the hole shot its a built auto with the 16g i can launch at 22psi and tear it sideways.thanks for your input

 

[14.5 drift]

Originally posted by brads
1 So the 4g63 is nearly identical to the SR20 now? 2 Are you talking about the 4g63 that is in our cars,3 or the 4g63 that is in the US Evo, 4 which according to you is the same as the DSM 4g63? 5 And the SR20 manifold/turbo catches more wind than the 4g63 manifold/turbo? 6 And the wind dissipating the heat gives the SR20 that much more power? 7 I just want to make sure I am understanding this right.

Thanks,
Brad

Even though it sounds like your being a sarcastic ass I will answer it any way. 1 Yes the sr20 and 4g share alot of likeness, 4cyl, alluminum block, similar valve train, piston squirters, equal displacement, forged internals, I am not tryen to split hairs here, they might/probly have subtle differences. I am answering these in order so try and stay with me, 2 yes, 3 not familiar, 4 and close to the same motor as far as output is concearned. I think an evo with a t25 at 12 lbs would have near the same uotput as a dsm, as I think a dsm with a twin scroll, front mount and 19 psi would have near the same output as an evo. I was talking the same as far as hp figures were concearned. 6 Maybe due to the transverse setup, it is a guess really. Heat is one of the biggest robbers in turbo applications, also why larger turbo's make insane amounts of power over there smaller counterparts. Can some one else explain why the 4g makes less power with almost twice the amount of boost? 6 See formentioned. 7 And well, ...yeah, I think you got it.

 

[dsmturboawd]

i guess compression differences dont matter to you as far as power goes.

alluminum block,

WRONG 4g63 is not aluminum no0b.

forged internals

WRONG

just shut your mouth. youre so wrong.

 

[14.5 drift]

Originally posted by dsmturboawd
i guess compression differences dont matter to you as far as power goes.


WRONG 4g63 is not aluminum no0b.

WRONG

just shut your mouth. youre so wrong.

Hey, #### you!!!! I am not perfect and neither are you. So dont act like you are. You wanna ad some thing other than attitude? If not shut the #### up!!!!

 

[dsmturboawd]

quit posting incorrect bullshit. you clearly know nothing about what youre talking about.

 

[14.5 drift]

Hold on a minute, I let me go back and type, correct me if I'm wrong in front of all my posts, that way some one with intelligence might be willing to do so. Seems like you are more interested in looking tough then spreading "good information" so why dont you chime out. BTW just because youve been trolling these forums for a few months does not mean you are some kind of veteran. Why dont you continue to shut the #### up, troll. nDo you have a problem in saying " hold on a minute bro, the compression might have some thing to do with the hp" or " actually the dsm block is iron not alloy", nope youd rather try and flex over the internet cause your too much of a ####y to do it in real life. I was warned about all the kids I would encounter on these boards.

 

[dsmturboawd]

im all about spreading good information. its just when someone, like yourself, attempts to spread terribly incorrect information, i tend to step in.

i have not been trolling for a few months, ive been here for over a year.

put on your thinking cap.

 

[GRNDSM]

14.5 drift – it is OK to disagree with others, but you do need to do so in a more civil manner, especially when much of what you posted was incorrect.

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