Resolved 1/94-19/94 Vented Rear Rotors on early 95 cars.

[Detail]

Guys/Girls,
I've been searching for aftermarket, either OEM or slotted rotors to replace my ORIGINAL OEM vented rear rotors. No one can help me out on this one. Where can I buy these? Also if you have a part number from a particular brand that would be HUGELY helpful. The following is the response from Powerslot:

//Hello Dan,

//The Eagle Talon's had a vented rear rotor from 01/94 to 10/94. I regret
//to say that we do not manufacture a vented rear disc rotor for your
//application and apologize for any inconveniences this has caused.

//With Best Regards,

Thanks peoples!

D

 

[pinder91]

According to this thread you can get them at NAPA, or dare I say it... the dealer.
http://dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187613&highlight=vented+rear+rotors

 

[prostreetdsmx1]

i have them, feel free to hit me up.

marti
TSF

 

[pinder91]

^That works too.

 

[Detail]

According to this thread you can get them at NAPA, or dare I say it... the dealer.
http://dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187613&highlight=vented+rear+rotors

Dare you don't I tried to educate Rick Cass in Atlanta and just flat out confused them. At first they thought I wanted slotted rotors like "powerslots". After that they figured out what I was talking about and then told me the rear rotors that came for my car had the same part number as what came for the later 95-99 cars. Which as we know is obviously wrong.

According to that other thread, is that mean V6 fit too? That would be easier to find aftermarket rotors for. I'm guessing though that if that were the case then powerslot or brembo (who makes factor replacements as well as the big dog stuff) would have figured out this and reboxed them and offer them as early 2g rear brakes. Which btw, hasn't happened. Anyone actually using this?

To the retailor above:
I saw your store, nice site, good use of links and dropdowns. Price was the same, $150 no matter vented, slotted, dimpled, or any combination of the 3. That seemed like fair retail price. Maybe a little too high for stock replacements. Still an option though.

Does anyone have this napa part number?

Is there any other companies, possibly aftermarket who sell rotors, stock replacement or upgraded?

Thanks all.

 

[prostreetdsmx1]

To the retailor above:
I saw your store, nice site, good use of links and dropdowns. Price was the same, $150 no matter vented, slotted, dimpled, or any combination of the 3. That seemed like fair retail price. Maybe a little too high for stock replacements. Still an option though.

Does anyone have this napa part number?

Is there any other companies, possibly aftermarket who sell rotors, stock replacement or upgraded?

Thanks all.

Detail,

We only sell the Centric HP Rotors right now and that is for very good reason. They are the rotor we have seen to perform best in the conditions that they are used in. Obviously we could offer something like OP Parts etc.. that are dirt cheap but we have tested them and put them through some moderate paces and i will just say that there is a very good reason that we do not sell them. If that is something you want in particular feel free to contact me and we'll see what we can do but i strongly advise against it.

 

[Detail]

no offense my man, but were talking about rear brakes here. like maybe 30% of your braking force goes there...I'm not sure I need vented rear rotors, blanks have worked fine for the last 160k miles. but i hear what your trying to say.

Dan

 

[jtmcinder]

Blanks are not an alternative to vented. These terms relate to completely different aspects of the rotor.

Blanks are contrasted with slotted and/or cross-drilled. This issue is best viewed by looking at the face of the rotor.

Vented is contrasted with solid. This issue is viewed by looking at the edge of the rotor.

- Jtoby

ps. please: no advertizing in the tech forums. If you have actual data to provide showing how and/or why one rotor is better, please post it. But all vending should be done by PM.

 

[Todd TCE]

While I have not put my hands on one, the rear caliper should be different from VENTED to SOLID as well. Fitting a solid rotor in a vented app can produce a lot of wasted (and potentially dangerous) piston extension. Please be certain you properly match your parts.

 

[jtmcinder]

You need the caliper, bracket, rotor, and pads to switch back (or forth) from vented to solid. The parking brakes are the same, as is the brake-line hose, so it's not a difficult swap.

- Jtoby

 

[Scrubulum]

While I have not put my hands on one, the rear caliper should be different from VENTED to SOLID as well. Fitting a solid rotor in a vented app can produce a lot of wasted (and potentially dangerous) piston extension. Please be certain you properly match your parts.

I've been a bad boy.
When I got my car the rear rotors were shot. Didn't have the time (only car) or funds at the time to find the vented rears ('95 TSI AWD manufactured in '94) so I went to Autozone and got the non vented blanks.
They are less then ideal mind you. The pad hangs off the rotors top edge so I am sure there is reduced braking force. But it is the rear after all and it has worked in a pinch.

I am by no means condoning or recommending this setup. In fact it is . But if you have to get to work and this is all you can find . . .

Just don't sue me.

Actually, for those that are interested. I will be putting some rims on tonight once I finish my wheel bearing/CV shaft replacement. I will take some pictures of how the rear brakes and calipers look after being on there for a couple thousand miles. I'm sure it will be really pretty. Then I will propably scoot my butt down to Napa and get some of the vented rotors with new pads.

 

[1LE]

Guys/Girls,
I've been searching for aftermarket, either oem or slotted rotors to replace my ORIGINAL oem vented rear rotors. No one can help me out on this one. Where can I buy these? /QUOTE]

Porterfield should be able to hook you up too. They can supply rotors for anything. You can get them heat and cryo treated too if you want.

 

[Todd TCE]

My local OEM supplier lists them but does not have them on the shelf. Figure about 10days to get a set. Plain, no slots or holes. Could plate them with BBK parts if so desired. Figure about $50ea. *unless my price jumped up a lot to get them.

 

[Scrubulum]

I put on my "new" rims tonight. It gave me an chance to check the status of the rear brakes.
This is a '95 Eagle Talon TSI AWD that had the vented rears. I couldn't find them and needed to get the car on the road so I put in regular rears to get me by. They have been in for about a year now.
You can see the pads hang off the rotor (no lip on the rotor). And there is a large section of unused rotor.

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This is trying to show the pad hanging off the rotor. The pad has started to wear into a notched shape. The brakes actually grab quite well. I can put on the e-brake and it resists the movement (1st gear and slowly letting off the clutch) very well.

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Just for fun. These are the rims I put on. The are ATP brand, made in Italy. Got them used for $350 with tires. New they were $350 each. They have some curb rash but not to bad for what I paid. Looks much better than the swirls.

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[Scrubulum]

If anyone can post part numbers and prices for where they bought vented rears so that I can locate a set that would be appreciated. I talked to Napa and they didn't seem to have any.

 

[Detail]

Blanks are not an alternative to vented. These terms relate to completely different aspects of the rotor.

Yeah, you totally missed my point. I didn't mean that the whole rotor were blanks. I meant just like stock early release 95 brakes. Vented through the middle and blank (not slotted, or drilled, or dimpled or name an aftermarket style).

Price wise, stock replacement (vented from top looking down, blank from side of car view) rotors from brembo usually run about $30-$50 a piece. Since I don't feel a need to upgrade to a different style rotor I don't really want to invest much more than that.

I had spoken to Brembo through my nopi rep and they had given me a part number and a release date. That date came and went and nothing happened. I'll get us the Brembo number shortly.

 

[Detail]

Laser, you're the man, nice work.

THANKS

 

[Nanan]

I had problems with getting replacement disc and calipers for my vented rear breaks and most online shops wanted a mint for the disks. I opted to convert the breaks to the solid disk by scavaging the brackets and etc from a junkyard. It cost me $20 for the brackets and calipers, i used the calipers for cores on rebuilds from advance auto. The rear solid disks from advance are like $20 each. If you can do a break job you can do the change over.

 

[ACM]

I had problems with getting replacement disc and calipers for my vented rear breaks and most online shops wanted a mint for the disks. I opted to convert the breaks to the solid disk by scavaging the brackets and etc from a junkyard. It cost me $20 for the brackets and calipers, i used the calipers for cores on rebuilds from advance auto. The rear solid disks from advance are like $20 each. If you can do a break job you can do the change over.

Only problem now is you're effectively driving on front brakes only...You have done the equivalent of swapping from the AWD big front brakes to the FWD little front brakes - the proportioning valve in the car is calibrated for the big brakes, so it shuts the line pressure down much earlier than the valve in the later, small brake, cars.

The rear brakes in a 2G do quite a bit of work - change that prop.valve for the correct one ASAP.

Charles