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[Kuds2gTSI]

been searching 4 awhile now and havent found anything or gotten an answer help ###...Ok so i bought a 97 tsi 2 weeks ago thinking it was a blown headgasket...well the car wont start i put new battery in and nothing plus when i looked in the oil i didnt see any antifreeze...and no oil in the anitfreeze ethier...but the car wont start or even turn over at all no sound no nothing...i went under the steering colum thinking its a electrical problem and i think there is a relay missing i dont know which 1...when i open the pass door the interior lights come on and the dorr locks (powerlocks) the lights (interior and brake and headlights) also come on when i put them on bright...when i frist turned the key to the car and turned the lights on the horn would go off...so i cut the wires to the horn...the radio wont work ethier (and its gounded) i took out the radio to se if there is a relay back there but idk if there is i cant see one i see alot of wires and what i believe to be my brain...any one with any pics of the relays under the steering colum and behind the radio are greatly appreciated and also would any 2g talon/eclipse relay fit in my 97 tsi? and an answer to my problem thanx alot

Kyle

 

[tpunx99GSX]

Check the connections on the Starter.
When you turn the key on does everything turn off? The remote wire is notorious for slipping off the starter (slides on rather then bolts on)

 

[Kuds2gTSI]

im pretty sure i have to get under the car to check the starter...or take off alot of stuff to get to it...but no when i turn the key all the lights stay only the headlights and dash lights and tail lights...the turn signals dont turn on though...but im not really sure where the starter is on this car...

 

[live4my4g63]

jack the car up, go to the front axle area to the right of the block (behind the block) and its in the tranny

 

[Kuds2gTSI]

ok thanx ill do that 1st thing tomorrow and psot back the results...thanx alot

 

[tpunx99GSX]

You should be able to look between the runners on the intake manifold, maybe move the coil pack and some wires and see the clip. You will either see a black clip on a gold tab or just a gold tab. If its just a gold tab then the wire slipped completly off. If you see the black clip, take a long screw driver and try and wiggle the clip and force it on more.

 

[evileclipse909]

Look under the steering colom at the ignition wires. make sure that no one has put in an aftermarket alarm with a kill switch. my car had the same problem and it ended up being a broken wire right at the colom.

 

[akira235]

definitely say the first thing to check is your starter. if you can, hook it to a voltmeter and have someone try to turn the car on, if it gets no power then your problem is in the wiring before the starter, if it gets power but doesn't turn i would say its the starter so take it out, go to advance/oreily's/autozone(if you must. i don't like autozone) and get them to check it for you.

 

[Dsmj89]

Before you waste money on a starter start with the cheapest things first, try replacing your starter relay and see if that was faulty. I had a similar problem on my previous car, had power everywhere but the car just wouldn't start, and turned out it was the relay and not the ignition.

 

[cavillac]

Before you waste money on a starter start with the cheapest things first, try replacing your starter relay and see if that was faulty. I had a similar problem on my previous car, had power everywhere but the car just wouldn't start, and turned out it was the relay and not the ignition.

Or you could actually verify that there is a bad part, start with wiring voltage tests then start the resistance tests, if you can figure that out then you'll be golden.

 

[Kuds2gTSI]

well yea thats what i think it is,a relay. but where is the starter relay(s) at in the car and can i get a starter relay from anyother 2nd gen/1st gen eclipse/Talon? and how do you do the Wiring voltage test and resistance test? (i haven been able to get anything done with the car 2 day because its -8 degrees out here) Thanx

Kyle

 

[chadnum1]

It sounds like your alarm is set. Horn blows for factory alarm. try un hooking the battery then reconnecting it and then unlocking the driver door with the key.

 

[Kuds2gTSI]

ok but wouldnt the horn go off when you open the door if it was bthe alarm? thanx

kyle

 

[Kuds2gTSI]

ok but i was told that there is 2 starter relays in the 2g...is this true? and where is it/they located? and where would i be able 2 get them from...Thanx alot


Kyle

 

[the_illest_fool]

start with the relay, dont buy one but instead take one from the wipers or headlights of course check fuses, then go from there try jumping the starter if that dosnt work check that evil little neutral safety switch

 

[akasoldats]

The starter is kind of a pain to find its on the back of the block. Kind of a round thing you may be able to reach it from the top but to take it off you'll have to just up the car and reach up from beneath the car. A good way to tell if the starters bad or not is to run a hot wire from the battery and touch it to the positive side of the starter. I had this same problem a couple of months ago.