Will this setup give me 12's????

[tbird]

Just wondering if 12's are possible with this setup on 94 octane gas..

90 gsx 5 spd
3" turbo back exhaust
255 pump
75 wet shot nx
15 psi on the 14b
free mods
gm mas setup draw thru

 

[98spydert]

No:thumbdown

 

[4geze63]

no, the way your trying todo it wont work for these cars, maybe with a honda but with a dsm you have to have supporting mods to be fast and reliable

 

[n0va91TSI]

What would you need for high 12s? Whats the list. If there is such a thing.

 

[psychlow]

With DSM's there's 150 billion combinations that'll get you in the 12's. The main thing you'll need is more boost. 15PSI on a 14b probably wouldn't get you into the 12's even on a 100 shot.

The next thing you need is injectors. Since you'll probably need upgraded injectors for the nitrous anyway, why not run more boost?

 

[DSMSpyder99]

mid-high 13's is my guess

 

[Eclipse96Ryder]

heres my current setup and im hoping to get a 13 flat...


Ported evo3 16g turbo
Ported evo3 exhaust manifold
Removed Cat
550cc injectors
walboro255 pump
Upper intercooler pipe
Lower Intercooler pipe
Dejon tool intake pipe w/ k&n
Greddy Type S bov
TurboXS HPMBC
APEXi SAFC-2


I dont think 12's is reachable even with this setup, so I dont think your plan is going to net a 12 sec. pass either.

add some injectors, intercooler piping, intake pipe...and 12's might be reachable with that 75 shot included. Good Luck!

 

[tbird]

alright then how bout add, 550's fmic, 18-20 psi on the 14b

 

[TSi92]

Originally posted by tbird
Just wondering if 12's are possible with this setup on 94 octane gas..

90 gsx 5 spd
3" turbo back exhaust
255 pump
75 wet shot nx
15 psi on the 14b
free mods
gm mas setup draw thru

Is the "doctor" tuning your car? hehehe You might make ONE 12 sec pass hehehe. You have AAA?

 

[IAMCLP1]

Originally posted by Eclipse96Ryder
heres my current setup and im hoping to get a 13 flat...


Ported evo3 16g turbo
Ported evo3 exhaust manifold
Removed Cat
550cc injectors
walboro255 pump
Upper intercooler pipe
Lower Intercooler pipe
Dejon tool intake pipe w/ k&n
Greddy Type S bov
TurboXS HPMBC
APEXi SAFC-2


I dont think 12's is reachable even with this setup, so I dont think your plan is going to net a 12 sec. pass either.

add some injectors, intercooler piping, intake pipe...and 12's might be reachable with that 75 shot included. Good Luck!

With a good driver you should be able to hit high 12's with this... No reason why you shouuld not be able to, plus you are AWD

Corey-

 

[TheTSiGuy]

Originally posted by tbird
alright then how bout add, 550's fmic, 18-20 psi on the 14b

On pump gas, maybe. race gas, and in you're in.

Then you got yourself a contender.

 

[Eclipse96Ryder]

Originally posted by IAMCLP1
With a good driver you should be able to hit high 12's with this... No reason why you shouuld not be able to, plus you are AWD

Corey-

the only reason im aiming for a 13 and not a 12 sec pass is because I dont have a datalogger to tune my car with, and im running on a stock downpipe with the cat removed. If i can get a datalogger, tune it, and run 18psi with some race gas then a 12 sec pass is definately reachable

 

[kpt4321]

If you're not going to be tuning your car, then you can't even participate in this conversation. A car could run 16's on a 20g, untuned, so that's an irrelevant point.

I say that he sure as hell can run 12's on the original setup. My car ran 12's with about the same parts, except more boost (~21 psi) but without nitrous. A 75 shot is more than enough to make up for the extra boost I was running.

If you run race gas, you have a REALLY good chance of pulling it off. It can be done on pump (again, my car did 13.2 on pump at about 15 psi, with no nitrous).


With an EvoIII and 550's, you should run 12's on pump gas.

 

[4geze63]

go here http://dsmtuners.com/tuning-guide/, all the info you need

 

[Forced4]

Hell, with about 18psi, free mods, and a K&N filter you should get about 14.0. A 3" exhaust and 190lph pump, stock mas hacked and good driving you should hit mid 13's.

another 2 cents
Rich
Forced 4

 

[Mangold]

Suuure you can hit 12s, sh*t u could hit 11s you just have to do one more thing... GUT IT!!

gut ur car... lose a couple hundred lbs. ... remeber a 120 hp bike (yamaha r1) runs solid 10s but weighs what less than 1/4 of ur car... u have well over 200hp with nitrous nearing 300... u can run 9s if u have no weight to haul down the track.
if ur building a race car that is, if not...

if u wanna leave it a daily driver/grocery getter then NO it wont... without fuel upgrades (fuel pump mainly) and prolly a bit o ignition (MSD, wires, good nitrous ready plugs) that Nitrous isnt gonna do exactly what you might want either.

In short... GUT IT!!! or get some solid supporting mods and yes it might happen.

 

[98RedGs]

Originally posted by tbird
Just wondering if 12's are possible with this setup on 94 octane gas..

90 gsx 5 spd
3" turbo back exhaust
255 pump
75 wet shot nx
15 psi on the 14b
free mods
gm mas setup draw thru

No, your definately going to need to get some supporting mods in there. If you're going to run nitrous then you should honestly consider running larger injectors. What about intake or IC pipes?

 

[MrPikolo]

Originally posted by tbird
Just wondering if 12's are possible with this setup on 94 octane gas..

90 gsx 5 spd
3" turbo back exhaust
255 pump
75 wet shot nx
15 psi on the 14b
free mods
gm mas setup draw thru

You should be able to hit 12s with that setup. But some of a your money may be better spent elsewhere

I'd say instead of the gm mas, get some 550s and turn the boost higher, then you should hit 12s for sure.

But as usual, so many other factors come into play.

 

[LAZPNO]

Personally Tbird, i wouldn't have even asked this question. No offense, just go to the track spend the money, run the car, see what it runs. Then come back and say i ran xx.xx with yyy setup, what would put me in the 12s? Mangold is right, if u gut the car, you can run 12's with what you have. You can also up the boost some to help you out. Oh, and of course we all know that you have something to monitor knock...

Good Luck.

 

[ColonelOdem]

do like 4geze63 said. go to the tuning guide and get those mods first... they support, it says that you can get low 13's and high 12's...with your injectors and intercooler, not to mention that 255 and nos that is ready to blow your engine on 15 pump... then yes, even with the weight it is possible to hit your mid to low 12.

 

[Eclipse96Ryder]

ill be running the car at the track next friday if i get my starter replaced by then....we'll see what my setup nets me

 

[dsmrunaway1]

whats going on guys im kinda sota new at this stuff and i have the same question could i hit 12s with my setup. i have an.....evo3 ported n polished,gasket matched 2g mani,ported exhaust side and intake side of my head gasket matched, 2 1/2 greddy exhaust, lsd, its fwd 2, tt supra pump ,safc,egt,i wanna get it tuned in at 20 or 21 lbs, i have a fully rebuilt bottom end with all arp bolts, upper intercooler piping, ported and polished intake manifold, punisher 02 dump tube, and intake hard pipe ?? im assuming i can but j/w built head 2 soon...

 

[dsmrunaway1]

oh yea and i have 550cc injectors

 

[Eclipse96Ryder]

Originally posted by dsmrunaway1
whats going on guys im kinda sota new at this stuff and i have the same question could i hit 12s with my setup. i have an.....evo3 ported n polished,gasket matched 2g mani,ported exhaust side and intake side of my head gasket matched, 2 1/2 greddy exhaust, lsd, its fwd 2, tt supra pump ,safc,egt,i wanna get it tuned in at 20 or 21 lbs, i have a fully rebuilt bottom end with all arp bolts, upper intercooler piping, ported and polished intake manifold, punisher 02 dump tube, and intake hard pipe ?? im assuming i can but j/w built head 2 soon...

if you launch well then its possible. The stock smic will hold you back. and i didnt see you mention a downpipe? if its not tuned then forget it, but traction will be the key issue.

 

[92TSI2.0]

What is a safe boost pressure to run a totally stock talon FWD just to take down the 1/4 mile 10 times per week?