Water style oil cooler or air

[nightspeed87]

I know the 90s used a air style oil cooler
and like after that they used water cooled.
Im sure the water cooled is better because they
discontinued air cooled after 90 but whats some of
your opinions on it.

 

[NB4G63T]

I would go oil to air, I have this set up on my 92 laser and after hard driving on a hot summer day, you can grab the return oil line and it's cool. This keeps the viscosity of the oil stable and where your in Florida it could only benefit i would think. ​

 

[nightspeed87]

true... so why do you think they made water for like all the newer dsm yrs...
Air doesnt seem so popular yet from your words works better....? I have a air style oil cooler that i think im bout to hook up thats why im askin.

 

[NB4G63T]

I really don't know why they went to the water set up. I bought a jdm motor that comes with a oil to air setup just had to buy lines and cooler. I have noticed my mobile 1 oil stays really clean for allot of miles. the water one works fine but with the air setup, you don't have to worry about the oil filter coming loose off of the housing. This happened to me but was caught in time.

 

[nightspeed87]

interesting.. So then im good with the air oil cooler im going to install...
Where exactly would you put it... In the location of the windshield washer fluid, behind the drive side f0glightl

 

[Ultimatedsm]

The 90's had the best oil cooler. Most of the autocross guys or road racing guys put them on and they significantely cool the oil compared to the water oil coolers. I have a 90 oil cooler on mine right behind the FMIC I have. It works amazing and used the stock 90 lines.

 

[Defiant]

I really don't know why they went to the water set up.

Because it's also an oil warmer during startup, and runs much more stable temperatures than an air setup (ever ride a motorcycle? Air temps are all over the place out there.). Which makes it easier to control engine operations and emissions output. It will also help contribute to a longer-lived engine on the street, where much time is spent in commute traffic at a standstill.
If you're going to pure race, without real-road bothers, a big air-cooled is cheaper and more effective.
Millions of engines just rely on the oil's strength to deal with temperatures, with no cooling device apart from the surface of the oilpan. And even they seem to live just fine.

 

[90gst_sean]

Because it's also an oil warmer during startup, and runs much more stable temperatures than an air setup.

Damn good answer!

 

[out there]

personally, i would use an air cooler, most of the fastest dsms in my area use air/oil (unless they're not telling me something)

 

[nightspeed87]

well the one I got came with the 90s 6bolt engine im dropping into my 93 and it came with a air oil cooler so i think ill just use that... Should still be ok, I try not to drive too much at the day time when its hot anyways to be honest, and I normally stay away from traffic so it should work out for me. Is it easy to hook up? Never really hooked up a air/oil cooler, not that I cant easily figure it out, but might as well ask while on the topic.

 

[brownfinger]

Because it's also an oil warmer during startup, and runs much more stable temperatures than an air setup (ever ride a motorcycle? Air temps are all over the place out there.). Which makes it easier to control engine operations and emissions output. It will also help contribute to a longer-lived engine on the street, where much time is spent in commute traffic at a standstill.
If you're going to pure race, without real-road bothers, a big air-cooled is cheaper and more effective.
Millions of engines just rely on the oil's strength to deal with temperatures, with no cooling device apart from the surface of the oilpan. And even they seem to live just fine.

Holy thread revival! I was wondering about oil coolers, and this is where it led me. I still wonder about the page in my 93 talon service manual dealing with the air/oil cooler. Was it an option in later years? My 94 Eclipse GS seems to have the threaded mounting holes for one.

Anyway, I thought about starting a thread in the Hangout about factory air/oil coolers. I decided I'd just add to this one instead. If I buy the 1990 turbo long-block at the local yard, I'll probably get the cooler with it.

 

[DSM4me44]

Because it's also an oil warmer during startup, and runs much more stable temperatures than an air setup (ever ride a motorcycle? Air temps are all over the place out there.). Which makes it easier to control engine operations and emissions output. It will also help contribute to a longer-lived engine on the street, where much time is spent in commute traffic at a standstill.
If you're going to pure race, without real-road bothers, a big air-cooled is cheaper and more effective.
Millions of engines just rely on the oil's strength to deal with temperatures, with no cooling device apart from the surface of the oilpan. And even they seem to live just fine.

When I did a 6 bolt swap, I switched over the air to a water cooler for this reason ^^^

I daily drive this thing on nice days, stop and go traffic.

 

[miguelmcv]

When I did a 6 bolt swap, I switched over the air to a water cooler for this reason ^^^

I daily drive this thing on nice days, stop and go traffic.

It Depends on where you install the cooler.
If you put it in front of the radiator, (where the Radiator Fan is located at),
It will not matter. Because the Radiator Fan will cool it down when the car reaches the temperature target.
But If you mounted on one side (close of the Fog light ). Than you need an electric fan on the cooler to cool it down while you are on street at high Temp. Day.
Unless your area doesn't get too hot during the day, then you should be OK with out a fan.

 

[tturbolife1]

cant i just take the coolant lines off my water cooled oil filter and force make it a air? =-D

 

[LiquidX]

cant i just take the coolant lines off my water cooled oil filter and force make it a air? =-D

No, you need the appropriate OFH to utilize an oil-to-air cooler.

 

[tturbolife1]

i have a foward faceing filter with no water lines BUT no oil lines either!?

 

[LiquidX]

i have a foward faceing filter with no water lines BUT no oil lines either!?

Scroll to the bottom.
FFWD Connection - Race Injuns That Will Freeze Your Brain

 

[tturbolife1]

thats the one! but no lines at all, and only 1 sensor on it.. which should i keep ? the water air and i cant find water lines for or the air oil that i cant find oil lines for,( and apparently cant order lines for either)?

 

[LiquidX]

Please re type that as cannot comprehend what you are asking.

 

[tturbolife1]

sorry im on my phone..that link you sent me is the one i have, but no lines in it at all, and there is only 1 sensor on ofh..so now that i found out what i have, which should i keep ?
1 the water to oil ofh that i cant find water lines for? OR
2 the air to oil that i cant find oil lines for,( and apparently cant order fittings for either)?