Venom or Walbro

[mitsu29]

i thought if i got the walbro 190 i woudnt need an afpr???

 

[underradar92]

i thought if i got the walbro 190 i woudnt need an afpr???

You are correct, if you are referring to my post, I was more pointing out that a 3s pump doesn't need an afpr, as a 255 does.

 

[larsrya8]

You are correct, if you are referring to my post, I was more pointing out that a 3s pump doesn't need an afpr, as a 255 does.

Of course, if you upgrade the stock line from the filter to the fuel rail, you'll need an AFPR even with just a rewired stock pump (at least, that's what the SteveTek site implies).

Most tuning tools can help you try to tune out some of the overrun by adjusting your low-end airflow. It helps, but isn't a cure-all. An AFPR isn't really a "go-fast" item... it's purpose is to keep the car perfectly streetable (and to save you from fouling out spark plugs) as well as to pass emissions.

 

[underradar92]

Of course, if you upgrade the stock line from the filter to the fuel rail, you'll need an AFPR even with just a rewired stock pump (at least, that's what the SteveTek site implies).

Most tuning tools can help you try to tune out some of the overrun by adjusting your low-end airflow. It helps, but isn't a cure-all. An AFPR isn't really a "go-fast" item... it's purpose is to keep the car perfectly streetable (and to save you from fouling out spark plugs) as well as to pass emissions.

Au contrare mon friere. My 3s pump IS hotwired & ALL lines, including the in tank interfaces and filter to rail are #6 & no overrun here. It is also quiet, even with a (relatively) quiet exhaust!

 

[JayRolla]

Ive also heard even if you dont need the FPR with a 190 that it still can help. Whould'nt you beable to get more fuel from the pump by turning up the fuel pressure?

 

[larsrya8]

Whould'nt you beable to get more fuel from the pump by turning up the fuel pressure?

No.

Increasing the fuel pressure decreases the pump's flow. It will increase an injector's flow though.

 

[4bangr]

Another quick question: Do the Greddy Fuel Injectors(660) fit in the factory fuel rail? Meaning are they just straight bolt on? Plug and play? Are the greddy injectors a good brand/quality?

yes greddy injectors fit in your factory fuel rail. they are made by denso, who makes your oe injectors. buying 550's is like buying evo 8 injectors. i would go bigger.

i would stay away from fic & rc & stick with denso. greddy's are private labeled by denso.

their are 2 walbro 255 pumps the regular & the high pressure. fyi. i would go with the supra tt denso pump rewired.

 

[GVR4592]

yes greddy injectors fit in your factory fuel rail. they are made by denso, who makes your oe injectors. buying 550's is like buying evo 8 injectors. i would go bigger.

i would stay away from fic & rc & stick with denso. greddy's are private labeled by denso.

their are 2 walbro 255 pumps the regular & the high pressure. fyi. i would go with the supra tt denso pump rewired.

Why would you stay away from RC and FIC?

 

[4bangr]

i don't want to get this thread off topic, but imho they are poop.

 

[tstkl]

Ok so DSMLink is a Fuel Management system right? As i said i need to do the research on this thing can you send me a link for DSMLink? What exactly does it do? I was just gonna get the EManage and take it to my shop guy to get the car tuned then i would hopefull be done with that

I take it you were a honda guy at one point?

get off the greddy bandwagon, as they tend to have quality parts, but they are always overpriced. Their injectors are increadibly expensive, and not too many people use emanage, so you won't be able to get as much help as you would be able to with dsmlink.

 

[GVR4592]

i don't want to get this thread off topic, but imho they are poop.

Well we are going to get off topic because you can't give somebody a reccomendation without giving some facts to back it up. You tell people to stay away from those injectors, but they are by far the most widely used injectors in performance applications. So there better be a good reason why you want people to stay away from then, other than "they are poop". What specifically do you not like about their injectors?

 

[mitsu29]

I take it you were a honda guy at one point?

get off the greddy bandwagon, as they tend to have quality parts, but they are always overpriced. Their injectors are increadibly expensive, and not too many people use emanage, so you won't be able to get as much help as you would be able to with dsmlink.

ummm nope have never owned a honda in my short life (24years) so im not sure why you made that comment, and their injectors are at a comparable price but im looking to get the FIC<--not sure what company a guy who posted earlier recommended

anyways thanks guys for all the feedback ill post an update once i find the setup that works for me

 

[thegchild04]

I take it you were a honda guy at one point?

get off the greddy bandwagon, as they tend to have quality parts, but they are always overpriced. Their injectors are increadibly expensive, and not too many people use emanage, so you won't be able to get as much help as you would be able to with dsmlink.

When I first looked over this post, I too thought he was from a Honda background. Don’t take it like we are disrespecting you. But you should definitely ditch the emanage; it really would suck if you needed help with that system around here. And he is right about the injectors. But I do understand the idea behind one brand name for everything you put on your car.

 

[thegchild04]

http://www.ffwdconnection.com/

they sell a one-stop shop package deal with the 95 eprom and DSMlink

http://www.dsmlink.com/

for more info, you will not regret it!

 

[daren_p]

ummm nope have never owned a honda in my short life (24years) so im not sure why you made that comment, and their injectors are at a comparable price but im looking to get the FIC<--not sure what company a guy who posted earlier recommended

anyways thanks guys for all the feedback ill post an update once i find the setup that works for me

FIC= Fuel Injector Clinic, www.fuelinjectorclinic.com or most of the shops on the sponsors list will carry them


Personally Im not a fan of Greddy products but even if I was I'd still go the DSMLink route over the emanage. Not sure on the price but Im sure DSMLink is probably cheeper, its specific to our cars, there are a tonn of guys running it, easy to use, lots of support if you should have a question/issue & the list goes on....

 

[mitsu29]

When I first looked over this post, I too thought he was from a Honda background. Don't take it like we are disrespecting you. But you should definitely ditch the emanage; it really would suck if you needed help with that system around here. And he is right about the injectors. But I do understand the idea behind one brand name for everything you put on your car.

ah ok its cool no worries and sorry i got a bit snappy anyhow this is what i decided to go with:

Fuel Pump: Walbro 190lph

Fuel Injectors: im a bit undecided here as i would like these from the FIC site http://www.fuelinjectorclinic.com/cart/mitsubishi.htm or the Greddy ones http://optionsauto.com/prodinfo.asp?number=TP-13500072 help me out here, are the FIC ones of good quality? thats all really thats holding me back if they are im going with the FIC ones that i linked 750cc or is that too big for my setup??

Fuel Management: (drum roll) DSMLink is what i have decided. I like to do things on my own and i have these wonderful forums WHEN which will be often i need help

 

[daren_p]

ah ok its cool no worries and sorry i got a bit snappy anyhow this is what i decided to go with:

Fuel Pump: Walbro 190lph

Fuel Injectors: im a bit undecided here as i would like these from the FIC site http://www.fuelinjectorclinic.com/cart/mitsubishi.htm or the Greddy ones http://optionsauto.com/prodinfo.asp?number=TP-13500072 help me out here, are the FIC ones of good quality? thats all really thats holding me back if they are im going with the FIC ones that i linked 750cc or is that too big for my setup??

Fuel Management: (drum roll) DSMLink is what i have decided. I like to do things on my own and i have these wonderful forums WHEN which will be often i need help

If the price doesn't matter & you have the extra cash, I might opt for the Greddy/Denso as they are probably the best injector for are car. But thats not to say there is anything wrong with FIC, tonns of guys run these on our cars, myself included and they work great. As for the size it looks like youve made the best choice & are going with dsmlink, since thats the case go big so you don't have to upgrade in the future if your turbo choice changes. Dsmlink will basically make any size injector run like stock & you aren't limited by the size like systems such as the safc are. My vote would be 750 to 950 as there isn't a huge price difference so might as well only have to purchase injectors once. With DSMLink not only will you have these formus but they have their own specific forum that you can register for once you buy the package, you should have no trouble getting help if you ever need it. Another advantage is the ease of use even for the first time tunner, you'll be tunning like a pro in no time