Turbotimer / Security System

[Arrow_Runner]

My first mods for my 95 TSi are gonna be a turbotimer and some sort of security system, hopefully in the same device.

I'm looking for a turbo timer that has some sort of security function. Alarm would be great, but even keeping ignition or gas from happening would be good too.

Does such a thing exist? If so, what brand? The only one's I saw were HKS and instead of security it had the option of giving you performance numbers from the car, which is great, but not what I'm looking for yet.

 

[Booster-Shot]

It might not be as fancy as youd like but most turbotimers have a thing that connects to the parking brake. If someone was to get in the car before the turbotimer had finished and releashed the parking brake to make the gettaway the car would shut itself off automatically.

 

[JST2FST]

I dont think I have ever seen a turbo timer and an alarm all in one. Like Booster-Shot said, they do come with, i guess you would call it a function, that turns the car off if the ebrake is dropped but I dont think that is what you are looking for. I you are going to have to buy both a turbo timer and alam separately.


Max

 

[Itlooksfast]

Im pretty sure that some car alarm system have the turbo timer built in. Most of the remote start engine to start up in the car in the cold. And then it have something like the turbo timer but they dont call it turbo timer. I have an alarm with that function right now and it never mention anything about puttin the ebrake down shut the engine off. But then again i never really use it til now. I set it at 10 seconds and i have never really been in such a hurry that i cant wait for that 10 seconds to stop.

 

[talonTSIDriver]

Yes, I have the Viper alarm system with a turbo timer built into it. I have a friend that worked at a car audio place and they installed alarm systems. He hooked me up with a really nice viper alarm system, remote start, and turbo timer. It goes for about $600 or so installed normally.

 

[JST2FST]

Yes, I have the Viper alarm system with a turbo timer built into it. I have a friend that worked at a car audio place and they installed alarm systems. He hooked me up with a really nice viper alarm system, remote start, and turbo timer. It goes for about $600 or so installed normally.

Wow i did not know Viper had an alarm like that, guess you learn something new every day.

 

[Snobordin8]

Im pretty sure that some car alarm system have the turbo timer built in. Most of the remote start engine to start up in the car in the cold. And then it have something like the turbo timer but they dont call it turbo timer. I have an alarm with that function right now and it never mention anything about puttin the ebrake down shut the engine off. But then again i never really use it til now. I set it at 10 seconds and i have never really been in such a hurry that i cant wait for that 10 seconds to stop.

10 seconds? Might as well not even wait to shut it off, you should let it run for at least 30 or 40 seconds minimum, and longer for harder driving. The time on mine increases the harder I drive it, so I just let it do its thing.

 

[travislaw]

Clifford Matrix RSX 3.5 2-way with remote start. I am installing it this weekend.

http://www.clifford.com/matrix/responder/default.asp

6-channel remote start/security/keyless entry system
Confirms commands and system triggers on the transceiver LCD screen
Clone-Safe® Code-Hopping®
Parking Light Flash
Failsafe® Starter Kill
Anti-Grind
Dual Zone Shock Sensor
Six-Tone Siren
Super Bright LED System Status Indicator
Miniature XCRS (Extreme Capacity Relay Satellite)
Defroster Output
Built-in Turbo Timer
4 Auxiliary outputs
Dome Light Supervision
Comfort Closure
Horn Honk
Includes One 2-way Responder Transceiver

PS: I have a HKS Turbo Timer 0 hooked up to my RPM wire. It automatically adjusts the turbo timer time to keep the car on by how you have been running your RPMS. The car turbo timers has run for a minimum of 1:30 from normal driving, so whoever said 10 seconds, I hope you like destroying your turbo.

 

[andytalon]

I also have the viper/turbo timer, now im not 100% sure if they accualy call it a turbo timer but this is what I do. Before I take my keys out I have a button on my kick panel I press and then I take my keys out, Its basicly a car starter but for shorter time..

 

[FORMONTOYA]

Clifford makes an alarm system with a built-in turbo timer in their G5 series:
http://clifford.com/g5/sec/default.asp

I got my Clifford shortly after I bought the car in 97. At that time they didn't offer a built-in TT so I had them use an auxiliary output with a window roll-up timer set for 2 minutes (it is actually configurable from 0-2 minutes). When I get out of the car I just hit the #4 button on the key fob, then shut the car off with the keys, get out and set the alarm and the car will run on for 2 minutes. The door, trunk and hood switches arm immediately, and the shock sensor arms 10 seconds after the car shuts off. Then the system is armed as usual.

If someone was to break in and drive off, the car only runs for 2 minutes max, so they wouldn't get too far, and without the keys the steering wheel would lock as soon as they made a turn of any significance. However, I have never had anyone mess with the car in TT mode.

 

[talonTSIDriver]

I also have the viper/turbo timer, now im not 100% sure if they accualy call it a turbo timer but this is what I do. Before I take my keys out I have a button on my kick panel I press and then I take my keys out, Its basicly a car starter but for shorter time..

Thats basically what i got. Its probably not a real turbo timer but it does the job just fine. Plus its also probably a safty thing too. I mean if you barrowed someone your car and if they are the type of person that leaves it in gear when they shut it off, then when they go to shut the car off and leave it in gear, that car wont shut off when they take the key out. Could cause a big mess.

 

[Arrow_Runner]

Thanks for all the replies, I'll do some research on the viper and the clifford systems when I get off work tonite or this weekend.



Screw thieves and wear and tear on the car.

 

[DGajre777]

www.directed.com for Viper and Clifford systems, they are made by the same company.

As for alarms with turbo timers, Viper 791XV and 591XV both have turbo timers. You can't get them used or on ebay, so expect to pay between $400 and $600 for them installed.

 

[Arrow_Runner]

Wow, can those only be ordered online or are they in stores?

 

[travislaw]

I bought mine on Amazon.com. It retails at the store for $500 - $600, I got it for $179.

 

[Arrow_Runner]

That's a price I can hit.

 

[bluetlr2001]

The only down fall to the new clifford and viper systems is you dont get the choice of hitting th button on the kick panel which is called the valet button anymore. You have to hit to buttons on the remote before you turn your car off. Most of them that have the turbo timer are remote start also. So if your cars manual good luck finding someone to install it unless you do it or have a friend that can.

P.S. Im an alarm installer thats how i know that a shop want hook up the remote start part on a manual. But it can be done I have it done

 

[DGajre777]

I got the Viper 5000 without remote start or turbo timer. Turbo timers on wet bearing turbos are useless anyways.

 

[Arrow_Runner]

I got the Viper 5000 without remote start or turbo timer. Turbo timers on wet bearing turbos are useless anyways.

I really don't see how that helps me at all because I started off by asking for a turbo timer & security system all in one recommendation.

As far as the useless thing, I don't know jack about turbos yet, but my owner's manual says to let the car sit and cool down after hard driving and that's exactly what I'm going to do.

I've blown 3 engines (non-dsms) and 1 transmission (dsm) already because my own or someone else's lack of maintenance and care of the car. My owner's manual says it's a good idea to let it cool down and that is exactly why I'm looking for a turbo timer so whatever.

 

[DGajre777]

I really don't see how that helps me at all because I started off by asking for a turbo timer & security system all in one recommendation.

As far as the useless thing, I don't know jack about turbos yet, but my owner's manual says to let the car sit and cool down after hard driving and that's exactly what I'm going to do.

I've blown 3 engines (non-dsms) and 1 transmission (dsm) already because my own or someone else's lack of maintenance and care of the car. My owner's manual says it's a good idea to let it cool down and that is exactly why I'm looking for a turbo timer so whatever.

I was making a comment to post number 9 and 11.

What page in the owner's manual does it state that you need to let the car sit and cool down after a hard drive?

You need to read this - http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=232227. After reading it, if you still want to get a turbo timer, more power to you. It is your money and your car, do what you want.

Turbo timers don't come with security features. Security systems come with turbo timers. If you just want to prevent someone from stealing your car put a switch on the clutch wire for clutch kill and rewire your fuel pump and put a switch on it. Hide both switches and you have a security system. Starter/ignition kills in my opinion are useless because if you have a stick shift you can have someone push your car to start it and drive away with the alarm blasting with the starter kill on.

I am giving you information, which is what you asked for. I'm giving you more than what you asked for so you can make an informed decision. If you choose to ignore it, that's your choice.

 

[Arrow_Runner]

Okay, that post makes a lot more sense than the other one. It's also a lot more helpful. Thanks.

Helpful link too, now I know a little more about my turbo.

I might consider the kill switch idea, atleast I can do that myself for a couple bucks and get a good security system later.

And I'll post the page number tomorrow when my wife gets back with the car, and if it's not there then I'll post that instead.

 

[4thsydecustoms]

if setup properly pretty much any remote starter can be used as a turbo timer...

 

[VPrime]

I got a Compustar 2 way pager alarm (not installed yet) and it has a turbotimer function..
but it only has a 3 minute, and 10 minute.. so 1 minute or any thing/.. so ill probably get it installed along side my current tt....

 

[Arrow_Runner]

What page in the owner's manual does it state that you need to let the car sit and cool down after a hard drive?

I have the 95 Eagle Talon manual, so I dunno if the page number is different in other years, but on page 101 in a box that says:

CAUTION

If your car is equipped with a turbocharged engine, be sure to follow these precautions:

1. Do not race the engine immediately after starting it.

2. Do not shut off the engine immediately after it has been run at high speeds or under heavy loads.

Allow the engine to run at idle for approximately 60 seconds or more before stopping it. Failure to do this will cut off oil supply to the turbocharger, causing overheating of the turbocharger bearings.

So there's the rub.

 

[DGajre777]

I have the 95 Eagle Talon manual, so I dunno if the page number is different in other years, but on page 101 in a box that says:

CAUTION

If your car is equipped with a turbocharged engine, be sure to follow these precautions:

1. Do not race the engine immediately after starting it.

2. Do not shut off the engine immediately after it has been run at high speeds or under heavy loads.

Allow the engine to run at idle for approximately 60 seconds or more before stopping it. Failure to do this will cut off oil supply to the turbocharger, causing overheating of the turbocharger bearings.

So there's the rub.

Thanks for the info. Number (2) is mostly if you drive for 2 hours on the highway and then pull over to a rest stop with a glowing turbo, you should wait 60 seconds or more before shut down. If I do a drag race type run (heavy loads), I wait that long to shut it off or drive around for 5-10 minutes before shut down. It means that you shouldn't do a drag race type run, slam on your brakes and shut the car off. I still don't see turbo timers as a necessary device, if you want one, get one.