Tornado Booster Gas Saver Mileage Turbonator (merged)

[m_eclipse_96]

do u guys have facts to back up your answer or do u guys just think its crap?

 

[nutshot]

Well, I can tell you that swirling the air before the valves makes no benefit either air flow or horsepower. This is of course due only to my knowledge of the internal combustion engine and the effects of obstructions in the intake path. Hey, have you tried that new greased lightning? It adds like 50 horses, cleans my injectors and is now available in a new low fat recipe.

 

[markmakeitso]

Like nutshot said, there isn't any benefit to swirling air before it enters the combustion chamber. In fact, removing turbulence is a good way to increase performance. That's why it's a good idea to match sizes for airflow paths, like matching the TB elbow, TB, and intake manifold holes up. I've also seen special throttles that leave no disruption of airflow at WOT.

 

[Tallen]

how do people fall for this....??? i am confused...i still dont know #### about engines, but i do know that your a moron for buying this. see if you can return it!

 

[mitsuspeed]

...... did you get a bottle of boost fluid with that?

 

[m_eclipse_96]

ok ok ok so u guys say it dont work, i guess ill return it but is there any benefit from it at all?

 

[rubbersidedown]

no benefit AT ALL! besides the fact that common sense should tell you that its a bunch of BS there is still plenty of real life info and such to show you that its crap.

 

[sential]

no benefit at all. Infact I wouldn't even risk installing it. I heard of a guy that had an integra and put one of these air swirler tornado/spiral max things on his car and the freakin thing broke and got sucked into his engine and destroyed a lot of stuff, causing a huge expense and hassle. Dont even mess with it. Send that thing back and get your money back.

 

[my95tsi]

ahhhhhh kids these days i can't beleive you would even consider putting that ino your turbo dsm, come on you already have a turbo what is some plastic swirly thing inside your intake gonna do????

 

[m_eclipse_96]

Originally posted by my95tsi
ahhhhhh kids these days i can't beleive you would even consider putting that ino your turbo dsm, come on you already have a turbo what is some plastic swirly thing inside your intake gonna do????

its not plastic its s/steel

 

[rubbersidedown]

plastic, steal, it can be made from titanium and it still won't do a damn thing. why are you keeping this arguement up? you just pissed cause you spent money on it and you can't return it? give it up, its worthless. Use it as a paperweight... if its heavy enough.

 

[KRAZYKOREAN]

Originally posted by cucumber
Waste of money!

I agree.

 

[m_eclipse_96]

Originally posted by rubbersidedown
plastic, steal, it can be made from titanium and it still won't do a damn thing. why are you keeping this arguement up? you just pissed cause you spent money on it and you can't return it? give it up, its worthless. Use it as a paperweight... if its heavy enough.

im not pissed and i can return if i want, i got from where i work so its not a big deal, and even if i chouldnt return it i get it for 25% off

 

[rubbersidedown]

well the core question of that statement is why are you keeping the arguement going if everyone is telling you its worthless? i really didn't want to know where you got it or if you could return it. there is no real need to defend yourself. just get rid of the dumb thing.

 

[m_eclipse_96]

ok and thanks for all your posts It’s very appreciated u guys saved me a lil money. hehe

 

[FKNAWD]

i feel a little embarassed to ask about this mod, but i was up late last night watching the speed channel, and the Tornado advertisement came on. Has anyone ever tried buying this mod? I thought that it was pretty convincing when they dynoed that car on the show and the gas that it has the potential of saving. One of my concerns was if I were to use it on my gsx, would the tornado be spinning the air in the opposite rotation to the turbo's fins, there by slowing down the turbo, or even damaging it by twirling the air in a different direction. i hope i'm not confusing you all, I was just very curious. thanks...

 

[nineD5_GS-T]

This is such a pointless product. A guy dynoed his SS camaro and lost something like 8 hp. What a joke.

 

[FallouT]

ya, how could something restricting the airflow make more hp? like he said what a joke

 

[$Racer$]

ok well my dad bought it for his 98 dodge caravan, well the car runs more queiter and i think he gets better gas milaege but not a lot and about the hp man i don't think so, his car used to idle about 800 and when he put it in now its like 600
don't buy it!
he paid like 150 and its useless i think
just my 2 cents

peace

 

[DSMJim]

They are not for use on turbo cars to start off.

Second (not that I am endorsing this product in any way shape or form beause I am not and I think it's junk) the premis this piece is built on is that swirling air moves faster than turbulent air.

I was at SEMA last year and saw their booth and wanted a laugh so I went over. He was showing me two bottles of water that were joined at the neck (like 2 liter coke bottles attached at the opening) with water in one end. When it tiped it over the water took forever to go through to the other side. He did the exact same test with two other bottles attached but these two had a tornado inbetween them that the water had to pass over to reach the other side. Basically to show the effect of water flowing through a tight space normally and with a tornado. When he tiped the first bottles over the water moved from one bottle to the other very slowly. He did it on the second with the tornado inbetween them and the water spun like a tornado or whirl pool and moved from one bottle to the other very quicky, less than half the time.

A lot of people were very convinced it helped flow. What was acctually happening in the first example is the water moved slower because it had to displace air and bubbles were going up into the flow disrupting the water making it slow. The second was creating a vacume effect like water going down the drain and you get a whirl pool as it goes down. It goes down faster because the air has a clear path to go from one bottle to the other throught the center of the whirl pool un-disrupted.

What does it mean for air entering an engine? Absolutly nothing, because the air does not have to move through anything else (like the water) nor is it being forced into the motor (like gravity was pulling the water down) as they are only for non-turbo cars.

So what is it? A big restriction in the intake and nothing else.

 

[dave99gst]

you can get a t/b spacer to swirl the air - i think its a little more proven

 

[bosljeff]

Has anybody done that ^^^^ on a turbo DSM and has any good come of it?

 

[Defiant]

Originally posted by FKNAWD
I thought that it was pretty convincing when they dynoed that car on the show and the gas that it has the potential of saving.

Ain't infommercials great? I just wish they'd hire bikini whores like on the Auto-Lock one.

My favorite so far was the one with the V-8 running with no valve covers, and the firemen hosing it down. Funny, the oil pump didn't seem to pick up any water... and what was in that big box on the end of the crankshaft?

Don't feel bad, Henry Ford was fooled by the Green Pill. And email boxes all over are filling up with a curve on the cow magnet frau... er, idea.

There are no 100-mile-per-gallon carburetors.

Tornados are codswallop. That's horseshit to you landlubbers. Your initial gut reaction of "wait, that couldn't work, could it?" was right.

 

[Gh0zTeR]

this is probly a really silly question.. but is early in the morning and im very tired.
there is this advertisment for this thing called the Tornado Fuel Saver
its told to increes your gas milage AND increese your horse power up to 20 hp its probly bull shit but has anyone tryed this thing out ?

~cheers Jonathan.

 

[ivanr4g63]

Nah man... it don't work... pay no atention to those early morning infomercials.

There has been lots of discussions about this, you can go ahead and do some search and read for your self, but there is no such thing as power increase by swirling the intake incoming air pressure, think about it, the throtle body is the main air entrance, then it splits into 4 in the intake manifold, so; is that tornado effect really goes into each cylinder intake?
In that infomercial they show a bottle of water before and after the tornado effect, it makes it seem so efficient, but it don't work the same way in a car...